I will not be getting 'the vaccine'...

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Bear with me as I try to ask this question in a way that the answer will be comprehendible to my small brain. Are you saying that all of your research has led you to the conclusion that the vaccine is SAFE or have you determined that the vaccine is HARMFUL to humans? I may have missed this simple answer with all the different statements and attachments, but I ask you because I enjoy your posts and usually understand what you talk about.

I am not certain what this has to do with the vaccine question, but I did not grow up in a religious surrounding, therefore I did not develop the belief that life is the single most precious gift bestowed upon mankind by God. You may never forgive me, but I do not believe that all human life is precious, and indeed, I do not believe that all who possess a human form are truly human. From the time I was a child and spent time in a hospital visiting my younger brother, I have seen living people that I believe God would be doing that person and everyone concerned with that person a great favor by taking that person to a better place.

Having spent thirty years in law enforcement, I have seen so-called "humans" that should not have been allowed to exist. I will not argue either of these conditions of life with you because I do not argue religion with anyone. I completely accept your beliefs even though my beliefs may be vastly different. And I do not ask you to even consider my beliefs. I am okay with things the way they are.

The life of you and your family is important for me, too. Be safe, and give me your thoughts on the vaccine--good or bad. No explanation is neccessary.
Nothing is as mean, rotten, nasty, vicious and sadistic, etc. towards its own kind as a human.
 
Man, I wish you were just some crazy nut on the internet. It's not hard to find a solution to problem that never existed, and then claim you fixed it. It's a bit like going to your mechanic because your car won't start and getting bill for a new carburetor belt.
"she's good to go" he says. All he did was charge the battery, knowing you'll be back for another carburetor belt. The sad part isn't that he keeps selling carburetor belts, it's that we keep buying them.....at some point, this car don't start...it'll be time for a new one, but this car doesn't come with options. You get what you get and you don't throw a fit.

About 40yrs ago, a fellow Alaskan told me the story about his wife driving up from the 48 states to Alaska. She was driving the car up by herself. She thought the car was running a bit rough, abnormal. She decided to stop at a service garage in Canada and asked them if they could inspect the car and tell her if there was something that needed service or fixing. They looked the car over and told her she needed a new battery. She had no mechanical background or knowledge whatsoever, so she paid them for their time and a battery and continued her trip up to Alaska. Her husband was clearly dismayed by the incident, but was able to smile while telling me about it. Cars engines back then ran fine no matter the condition of the battery. Very few electronic sensors. No voltage sensitive ECUs and computer controlled engines in those days. I still smile about it today. Reliance on others comes with its own risks and hazards.
 
If you surround yourself with negativity, it's all you'll see. If all the news you read is designed to make you fear your neighbors, it's all you'll feel.

Lots to be happy about living where we do in the time we do.

This too shall pass.
Negativity surrounded me without my permission. It has been there all my life. I do not have to see it on TV or read about it in the news or on social media, it is just there, always. Happyness pretty much eludes me and always has. When this passes, things will only be worse. Much worse. But I am a tougher man for it. And I sleep well at night. If you believe all that, ask yourself what I am doing up writing my life history at two o'clock in the morning. And driving my golfcart around in the first snow I have ever seen that stayed on the ground without melting.
 
ATH, i am glad you are here to show us your superior knowledge on all subjects and to explain that any conclusion other than ones you condone are wild conspiracy and only believed by the ignorant and inbred . It must be amazing to wake up each morning as YOU. I am now an ignorant follower of your doctrine . Show me , oh wise one, the error in my ways and lead me into the new order as one of your indentured servants . I am truly in awe of your magnificent ability to judge and pass sentence on others without so much as wasting your incredibly valuable time to look at their opinions sources or information. Tell Bill i said hello.
 
The religion of others is no business of mine, nor is it an indication of their intent. His claim that you will be raped and murdered for not wearing a hijab is simply not true. Same for all the illuminati new world order talk and other conspiracy peddling/fear mongering.
And you know this is all false information how ? Could you share your sources that prove your conclusions ? Or are you , like many others, afraid to look outside your nice tidy understanding of reality. You think you are too smart to believe such craziness. I challenge that your too small minded to accept there might be things in play beyond your understanding.
 
And you know this is all false information how ? Could you share your sources that prove your conclusions ? Or are you , like many others, afraid to look outside your nice tidy understanding of reality. You think you are too smart to believe such craziness. I challenge that your too small minded to accept there might be things in play beyond your understanding.
He Googled it
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Already been vaccinated with no ill effects, this far. I've seen the alternative with 2 family members that were otherwise healthy. Once you see it up close and personal, I'm betting most sensible people will/would change their mind. just my opinion...
 
Already been vaccinated with no ill effects, this far. I've seen the alternative with 2 family members that were otherwise healthy. Once you see it up close and personal, I'm betting most sensible people will/would change their mind. just my opinion...
It affects everyone different, the same as the Flu a cold or sinuses , I had it and it was no worse than a cold, I was good to go in 3 days I've also seen some friends of mine that it put down for a week, just like the flu
 
It affects everyone different, the same as the Flu a cold or sinuses , I had it and it was no worse than a cold, I was good to go in 3 days I've also seen some friends of mine that it put down for a week, just like the flu
Did I say otherwise? But I watched it kill 2 family members in there 30's over a gruesome 2-3 month hospital stay that both were healthy before contracting.
I'll take my chances with the vaccine
 
The religion of others is no business of mine, nor is it an indication of their intent. His claim that you will be raped and murdered for not wearing a hijab is simply not true.
You really need to go live in another country for awhile like I did in Saudi Arabia for 2 years. The locals told me straight up there's 3 kinds of police, religious, local and military and the religious were the ones I should look out for. To think theres not hard line Islamic people on the U.S is sticking your head in the sand, that being said I have no doudt theres peace loving Islam people here to.
It really opened my eyes to what goes on in other parts of the world.
Sorry to derail
 
You really need to go live in another country for awhile like I did in Saudi Arabia for 2 years. The locals told me straight up there's 3 kinds of police, religious, local and military and the religious were the ones I should look out for. To think theres not hard line Islamic people on the U.S is sticking your head in the sand, that being said I have no doudt theres peace loving Islam people here to.
It really opened my eyes to what goes on in other parts of the world.
Most folks have no idea the monstrosity's that happen everyday until you see it for yourself, the smell is what I will never forget
 
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