Orange Dust
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Cool, seems to be the same principle as a power peep on a bow. I've never experienced this except with VX111's. My problem is image quality in low light.
Optics for aging eyes
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Orange Dust
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BTW, best reticle I ever used for running deer was the old post and crosshair. Deadly in the woods on a 2-7X
Rick Richard
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Never seen that before until now. Thanks for sharing.
First of all I am 68 and have eyes that are also in the early stages of cataracts.
I have a SWFA HD 5-20 x 50 illuminated and love it. I like everything about it. Great turrets easily zeroed and they line up EXACTLY on the witness marks when tightened. Reticle is useful without being overly busy. Both turrets and reticle are Mil/Mil. First focal plane keeps stadia spacing the same under all magnifications. The tiny illuminated dot in center is a bonus as it won't block view of intended target in dim light. I hunt coues wt in S. Az with this scope. The tiny red dot sure helps with seeing the crosshairs on an animal at first and last light.
Jon A did a great write up on this scope:
https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/swfa-super-sniper-5-20x50hd.72157/
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24 hr campfire member Formidilosus had it on his reliable scope list.
This gentleman works for a company that works with hundreds of scopes, several hundred thousand rounds, destructive and environmental testing, multiple military tests. Based on what he has seen fail he says:
"Failures or issues with these scopes are extremely rare"
1). Nightforce NXS/ATACR/BEAST
2). Bushnell LRHS, HDMR/DMR, ERS, XRS
3). SWFA SS 6x, 10x, 1-6x, 3-9x, 5-20x
4). S&B fixed 10x PM
5). Hensoldts
6). Older Leupold fixed power Mark 4's/Ultra's
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There are currently 2 illuminated used (demo B and C) SWFA HD 5-20 x 50 scopes at reduced price of $899.95, (new price $1499.95)
LINK:
https://www.samplelist.com/entire-sample-list/riflescopes.html#brand=SWFA SS&pg=2
I bought a condition B illuminated 5-20 and it was flawless as was a condition B HD 1-6 illuminated. Skylar, at SWFA, said they are very discriminating on what scopes get assigned the condition B. Bought another scope in condition C and it had a mark on elevation cover, that was all.
Or you can go here and buy a new one. https://www.swfa.com/optics/riflescopes.html?brand=SWFA+SS&brand_model=HD#brand_model=HD
For $899 that used one would be something worth trying.
I have a SWFA HD 5-20 x 50 illuminated and love it. I like everything about it. Great turrets easily zeroed and they line up EXACTLY on the witness marks when tightened. Reticle is useful without being overly busy. Both turrets and reticle are Mil/Mil. First focal plane keeps stadia spacing the same under all magnifications. The tiny illuminated dot in center is a bonus as it won't block view of intended target in dim light. I hunt coues wt in S. Az with this scope. The tiny red dot sure helps with seeing the crosshairs on an animal at first and last light.
Jon A did a great write up on this scope:
https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/swfa-super-sniper-5-20x50hd.72157/
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24 hr campfire member Formidilosus had it on his reliable scope list.
This gentleman works for a company that works with hundreds of scopes, several hundred thousand rounds, destructive and environmental testing, multiple military tests. Based on what he has seen fail he says:
"Failures or issues with these scopes are extremely rare"
1). Nightforce NXS/ATACR/BEAST
2). Bushnell LRHS, HDMR/DMR, ERS, XRS
3). SWFA SS 6x, 10x, 1-6x, 3-9x, 5-20x
4). S&B fixed 10x PM
5). Hensoldts
6). Older Leupold fixed power Mark 4's/Ultra's
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There are currently 2 illuminated used (demo B and C) SWFA HD 5-20 x 50 scopes at reduced price of $899.95, (new price $1499.95)
LINK:
https://www.samplelist.com/entire-sample-list/riflescopes.html#brand=SWFA SS&pg=2
I bought a condition B illuminated 5-20 and it was flawless as was a condition B HD 1-6 illuminated. Skylar, at SWFA, said they are very discriminating on what scopes get assigned the condition B. Bought another scope in condition C and it had a mark on elevation cover, that was all.
Or you can go here and buy a new one. https://www.swfa.com/optics/riflescopes.html?brand=SWFA+SS&brand_model=HD#brand_model=HD
For $899 that used one would be something worth trying.
Cool, thanks for sharing.
jimbires
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if you decide on this let us know what you think about it . thanks Jim
J E Custom
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Having A lens filter on a camera is A good thing at times when It is to bright, but in poor light It makes the performance of the camera less than desirable. The same thing happens with scopes if you add filters in poor light.
I have tried filters on spotting scopes when you have to set up facing the sun or a sunlit slope and they are very good in these situations. But in poor light they can be detrimental. Shooting target matches using optics we sometimes had to use a sun shade that extended beyond the Objective lens 3 or 4 inches, that way the Hood did not reduce the light gathering ability of the scope. The old Red field Wide field had a reddish tint that was Ok until you got caught in a poor light situation then you were shut down. There are still a few blue tinted scopes that look great in the store with good light, But when the sun goes down they are the first to white out.
I'm not knocking the device, but the poster wanted a good poor light scope and anything that filters more light or glare takes away from the scopes ability to hunt later.
I once tried the lens caps that are see through and even the clear ones took away from the scopes light gathering ability and had to come off when the light went down.
The best way to see how well a scope gathers light is to set in your stand/blind and keep looking through it on max power. At some point
It will start to whit out. At that point you will have to turn the power down until It becomes clear again. keep doing this until the power is all the way down and if you have a good set of binoculars they will probable out last the scope because they are normally low power with big objective lens. This is also a good way to evaluate your binoculars.
With any kind of moonlight, a good scope will go beyond legal hunting hours.
Be careful when adding anything to a good scope because they were not designed for anything that could effect there light gathering rating. A good quality scope will hunt past a shooters ability.
Just saying
J E CUSTOM
I have tried filters on spotting scopes when you have to set up facing the sun or a sunlit slope and they are very good in these situations. But in poor light they can be detrimental. Shooting target matches using optics we sometimes had to use a sun shade that extended beyond the Objective lens 3 or 4 inches, that way the Hood did not reduce the light gathering ability of the scope. The old Red field Wide field had a reddish tint that was Ok until you got caught in a poor light situation then you were shut down. There are still a few blue tinted scopes that look great in the store with good light, But when the sun goes down they are the first to white out.
I'm not knocking the device, but the poster wanted a good poor light scope and anything that filters more light or glare takes away from the scopes ability to hunt later.
I once tried the lens caps that are see through and even the clear ones took away from the scopes light gathering ability and had to come off when the light went down.
The best way to see how well a scope gathers light is to set in your stand/blind and keep looking through it on max power. At some point
It will start to whit out. At that point you will have to turn the power down until It becomes clear again. keep doing this until the power is all the way down and if you have a good set of binoculars they will probable out last the scope because they are normally low power with big objective lens. This is also a good way to evaluate your binoculars.
With any kind of moonlight, a good scope will go beyond legal hunting hours.
Be careful when adding anything to a good scope because they were not designed for anything that could effect there light gathering rating. A good quality scope will hunt past a shooters ability.
Just saying
J E CUSTOM
I'd imagine you found a good scope being you were willing to spend 3K-lol.
Orange Dust
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You younger folks will learn that as you age you will have to have better tools for everything you do if you still want to do the things you used to do. For instance a blind you used to lift now takes a winch. You need better and better optics just to see clearly, etc. The good news if you bust your butt all your life working, you will be able to afford it when the time comes, and trust me, that day will come.
Orange Dust
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Still haven't heard from anyone that owns both a x5i and a atacr... kales??
jimbires
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I see what JE is saying about the extra lens , and I agree . I'm thinking though if the extra lens corrects your vision it could be whats needed to see your reticle in the first , and last few minutes of the hunt ? I have been able to see the target , but could not see my reticle well enough to feel confident in the shot . that's when I upgraded my one rifle from a VX3 to a VX6 . I feel like you other guys , it's turning into an optics race .
Don A Parsons
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My best low light optic is a Nikon Monarch III in 3x12...
Clear then my other 7 brands of optics... I have about 20 in storage...
5 years running with 2 major Tumbles and lots of brutal weather conditions...
Simple BDL reticle...
Life is just that simple...
Clear then my other 7 brands of optics... I have about 20 in storage...
5 years running with 2 major Tumbles and lots of brutal weather conditions...
Simple BDL reticle...
Life is just that simple...
Orange Dust
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I actually have one of those.
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The resolution and clarity of the scope will help but your correction is the best thing to help, if you use glasses or contacts, unless your vision is near flawless.
