I had problems in my custom 7x57 with the 162 grain ELDX. It's the projectile. The combination of muzzle velocity, barrel length and flight time to the target it what causes it. The plastic tips are melting..... Hornady denied it to me. 100 yards they shoot like a dream.... Scratch your head at 200... 300 is *** shooting and 400 cant hit 8" silhoutte... I called Hornady they claimed every thing from my loading to how my rifle was chambered. Funny thing is I dont have that problem with 160 grain sierra match kings. The rounds where pushing 2840 FPS. I would imagine your Nosler is faster... So the as your projectile flies the tip deforms more... Further the target the worse the groups. I loaded up qty 100 and was so disappointed. Hornady didn't offer me any compensation. My rifle also has a 26" barrel longer barrels transfer more heat to projectiles.
Scratching my head please help. 28 nosler
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I had problems in my custom 7x57 with the 162 grain ELDX. It's the projectile. The combination of muzzle velocity, barrel length and flight time to the target it what causes it. The plastic tips are melting..... Hornady denied it to me. 100 yards they shoot like a dream.... Scratch your head at 200... 300 is *** shooting and 400 cant hit 8" silhoutte... I called Hornady they claimed every thing from my loading to how my rifle was chambered. Funny thing is I dont have that problem with 160 grain sierra match kings. The rounds where pushing 2840 FPS. I would imagine your Nosler is faster... So the as your projectile flies the tip deforms more... Further the target the worse the groups. I loaded up qty 100 and was so disappointed. Hornady didn't offer me any compensation. My rifle also has a 26" barrel longer barrels transfer more heat to projectiles.
Colin78
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So I just took my hand chamfering tool and cleaned up the inside of the neck opening and wala the bullets slide right in.
Colin78
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Thanks, yea I'm pushing the eldx's around 3100 fps. I have some 175 elite hunters coming. If I don't get them to real close to .5 moa quick I will just go with the 143 Hammer hunters. They shoot amazing. I wish my rifle would stabilize the 177 Hammer's and we would never have even had this conversation.
WalksLikeADeer
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If you have .016-.018 neck wall thickness I would neck turn them to all the same thickness which would give a concentric neck and also give you the clearance you need. I use the K&M tool, mandrel and expander die which works well.
greatwhitehntr
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Not trying to sound like an *** at all, if it we're me I would ditch that nosler crap brass.
I had better luck with Hornady than nosler and the Hornady isn't that good.
Nosler is over priced soft junk. I know hundreds of guys have had good luck with it and hundreds of guys have had crap luck with it. I had nothing but crap in multiple calibers with nosler brass. There service sucks when it comes to ammo and reloading ((save that for a later date)) Peterson is going to be making it soon as is ADG, Bertram has it out I'm pretty sure they just got it in.
I just picked up 200, not the most consistent but not that bad no more pressure signs no more loose primer pockets no more neck issues. I watched a YouTube video of a guy doing a metallurgy video on annealing and he also did a hardness test on it he said it wasn't worth a crap fedral wasn't too far behind.
Take it for what it is worth ( rant over)
I had better luck with Hornady than nosler and the Hornady isn't that good.
Nosler is over priced soft junk. I know hundreds of guys have had good luck with it and hundreds of guys have had crap luck with it. I had nothing but crap in multiple calibers with nosler brass. There service sucks when it comes to ammo and reloading ((save that for a later date)) Peterson is going to be making it soon as is ADG, Bertram has it out I'm pretty sure they just got it in.
I just picked up 200, not the most consistent but not that bad no more pressure signs no more loose primer pockets no more neck issues. I watched a YouTube video of a guy doing a metallurgy video on annealing and he also did a hardness test on it he said it wasn't worth a crap fedral wasn't too far behind.
Take it for what it is worth ( rant over)
Nosler brass is crap... I use PPI
And just as quick as ADG 28 Nosler becomes available, IT"S GONE THAT FAST!!!!!!
Hurry up and wait I suppose................
Hurry up and wait I suppose................
This is interesting ELDM gel test results, take it for what is, this is a static test and no live animals were used for testing.
ELDX test
Shootin4fun
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A lot of bad experiences posted here with the ELDX. I'm surprised since so many 6.5 CMs seem to shoot them well. I almost bought some during the Berger drought, also because they are a bit more affordable, but then the Bergers started flowing again. The 130 vldh, and 135 classic h in 6.5 CM and the 168 in both styles in 7RM shoot < .5 moa consistently in Xbots and savage. So no reason to change. Oh, and the fouling? Nada. I clean after 50+ rounds just to be nice to the barrels. Have not taken game with them yet though.
I've got a ridgeline 28 on order, can't wait for it to get here. I also have an x bolt 28 Nosler, 1-9 twist and had great luck with 175 ELD-X with 82 grains retumbo with 3.55 coal. CCI 250 primers. I'm at 6000 feet elevation and was starting to flatten primers but no heavy bolt lifts. I shoot suppressed and can touch 4 shots at 100 yards
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Colin78
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Good luck with it. If its like mine and finiky as heck just call Steve and order some of his magic bullets. Mine really likes both the 143 and 155 hammer hunters. I ordered some AGD brass and expect it to show up any day. Can't wait to see how it does.
