7mm Rem Mag vs 6.5mm Creedmoor

[Deleted member 46119]

The 7mm Rem Mag can do everything the 6.5 CM can do and much much more.

Hunting or long range shooting 7mm will be more successful over the long haul.

Remember to add $.20-$.40 (twenty to forty cents) to each round fired for a new barrel. This is true for what every you shoot. Barrels are a consumable part of the shooting process. 2,000 rounds for any caliber is reasonable. Yes, some get more, some get less. That's not the point. The point is to remember that barrel replacement is part of the process. If you only hunt, you will never reach that point.

 

[Barrelnut]

Just so all are aware, the thread was revived after 3.5 years. The OP has not been on the forum since Sept. 2014.

Good to see the ole regulars still here though, and obviously 7RM vs 6.5 Creedmoor is a very debatable topic. So carry on...

 

[Eagle eyes 17]

I have a Remington 700 Long Range chambered for the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum, I never use max loads so the brass and the barrel have a longer life span.

 

[Eagle eyes 17]

As far as a 7mm Rem. Mag. or a 6.5 Creedmoor go,. if you ask 12 people 6 will probably say the 7mm and the other 6 will probably say the 6.5.
But if you think about it they're not even in the same category. The 7mm is a Magnum the 6.5 isn't.

 

[MudRunner2005]

As far as a 7mm Rem. Mag. or a 6.5 Creedmoor go,. if you ask 12 people 6 will probably say the 7mm and the other 6 will probably say the 6.5.
But if you think about it they're not even in the same category. The 7mm is a Magnum the 6.5 isn't.

I know, that's part of that advertising psyop they've been pulling on people. They're both good cartridges, they're just not even in the same ball park. In baseball terms, the 7mmRM is the MLB, and the 6.5CM is coach-pitch.

 

[Konrad]

Hello guys just wanted so input on my rifle I am putting together. I have set my sights on two cartridges (6.5mm Creed & 7mm Rem Mag). The idea behind this rifle is to be my first long range target gun. Also would love to use this gun for Mule Deer in New Mexico. I am building this gun on a Defiance Deviant Action built by Short Action Customs in northern Ohio. Both guns are very capable of shooting long range. For the Creed I will shoot 140 AMAX and for the 7mm I was planning on shooting 168 berger's or 180's. Any suggestions you guys might have would be great ! Thanks for reading !

One of the beautiful things about firearms shooting/collecting is there is always "the correct tool for the job".
What I am about to say will be seen as heresy, but here goes!
The 7mm Rem Mag was designed originally as a 500 yard elk cartridge propelling a 160 grain hunting bullet at 3000 fps.
The 6.5C was designed for 120 grain target bullets propelled at around 2800 fps.
Were I you, I would build the 7mm as a hunting platform and the 6.5 as a target platform.
I know any number of enthusiasts will clamor about the 6.5 maintaining super sonic velocities beyond 1000 yards; however, when speaking of hunting, we should still keep in mind the 2000 foot pounds commonly calculated as the minimum required energy for hunting medium game at any distance.
I believe that taking a shot at a living thing at 1000 yards is not sporting. If this was a combat situation, I would surely pull the trigger. War is not sport.

The 7mm has only 1987 foot pounds remaining at 300 yards.
The 6.5 barely has 2000 foot pounds at the muzzle.
One is perfect for paper.
One is far, far better for hunting.
Besides, this way you get two rifles in the safe instead of one!

 

[Eagle eyes 17]

I Know that the the 6.5 Creedmoor is Hornady's Golden Boy Cartridge right now but if you look back at Cartridge Development and Introduction they all had similar beginning's.

 

[Konrad]

Yes, I know, and once upon a time there was much buzz in the press regarding the 280 Ross. They touted that cartridge as "...perfect lion medicine". At that time, the accepted practice for hunting lion was to spy one (or three) on the open veldt with binoculars. Then, they would mount their horses and ride like mad at the lions until the lions stopped and turned. Then, our intrepid hunter would jump off of his horse with his Magic Wonder Rifle and blast the charging lion in the chest!

This all sounded like a fine lark until the lions began racking up quite the score against those hunters. Needless to say, the authors of those articles eventually quieted down remarkably when the scores started trickling in across their desks and discussing the magic powers of the 280 Ross.

Physics don't lie. Bullet construction is paramount when used against our noble game animals (match bullets are designed for punching holes in paper). Marksmanship in the field is ALWAYS different than at the range.
If one keeps all these things in mind, tragedy afield, be it the loss of hunter or game, is mitigated greatly.

 

[Konrad]

A heavy for caliber, long, well designed, expanding (in the case of thin skinned game) projectile launched at velocities close to 3000 fps, regardless of caliber is always better on game than a small diameter, light, faster bullet that is poorly constructed.

As in archery, one must always consider the worst case scenario as "average". If you are taking equipment into the game fields thinking that it will work "if everything goes just right", you are setting yourself up for failure.

 

[coop2564]

7mmRM is my favorite caliber with 6.5 CM next! So if anything is bigger than 700 lb go 7RM!

 

[Eagle eyes 17]

Haven't owned either one yet but I have a Remington 700 with a 26" barrel chambered for 7mm Remington Magnum on order, looking forward to seeing what I can do with it ...

 

[Eagle eyes 17]

If hunting medium game as well as target...Go with the 7mm RemMag with a 26" 1:9 twist barrel.

when I ordered my Remington 700 - 7mm Rem. Mag. with the 26" 1:9 twist barrel it was for that exact reason, my freind got a 6.5 Creedmore, so when I get my 7mm we can go to the Range and see what happens …

 

[Eagle eyes 17]

Well last a checked it the mag takes more powder....... You can get match factory Creedmoor ammo for 25-26 bucks a box. Im not sure what company makes match ammo for the 7 at that price. For good 7mag ammo your looking to spend 35-40 bucks. So id say its cheaper.

I will be Reloading for my 7mm Rem Mag so it should be very affordable to shoot,

 

[LVJ76]

I will be Reloading for my 7mm Rem Mag so it should be very affordable to shoot,

I have a Rem 700 just like that you have on order and with reloading I get Half MOA with 140gr, 150gr and 154gr bullets. With 160gr and 162gr I'm just under an inch, so I need to work a bit on those to get to 0.5" or better. I have not tried the 175gr bullets I have but that's next month's project.

I agree that the 6.5 CM is a great cartridge, but the 7mm Rem Mag is way better for hunting, you can shoot bigger and heavier bullets over 3,000 fps, it's one of the best all around cartridges out there.

I don't shoot past 500 yards, and at 500 yards the punch of the 6.5 cannot beat the 7RM, no way no how. We also owe it to the animals we hunt of providing them a fast and clean kill.

Best regards

LVJ76