Hornady 143 gr ELD X Terminal Performance Report

[Prieto9000]

I'm hoping the 147eldm@2920 is just more of a good thing

what cartridge are you using to push them?? That's what my 4S is giving me. I was expecting a little more MV with it.

 

[elkaholic]

I'm running them at 3107 in my sst and they did a number on a white tail buck shot quartering hard away

 

[elkaholic]

I'm running them at 3107 in my sst and they did a number on a white tail buck shot quartering hard away

Oops! I thought this was on another bullet thread but posted here earlier Sorry!....

 

[Pdvdh]

I can't help but laugh. Until the Berger Craze hit full bloom the Accubond was by far the most popular bullet with the gang around here.

I always experienced good terminal performance with the Accubond bullets all the way out to 850yds. And the meat near the bullet path didn't vaporize, and was edible.

 

[Capt RB]

what cartridge are you using to push them?? That's what my 4S is giving me. I was expecting a little more MV with it.

I'm running a creedmoor with 215's under 47.8 to 48.1. I ran my ladder to 50.5 in Norma brass. I only ran46-49 in the peterson brass To load 49 and up you need a drop tube to not crunch real bad. It didn't grow but there is no room @2.855 coal My throat is at 2.857 with the 147's I didn't record the 140 serria but it was not much more than 2.800. I'm using a F1 crony so my speeds may not be what it says but my ladder was 21fps for each .5 grain increase. I thought it should be about 14-15 but I don't have any experience with the creed and very little with Rl26. 210's will cost some speed for lower es. I ran 5 tubb's throat maintenance bullets through this @BuLLet 7 through 12. I was patching it after each shot. The sticky spot 18ish" from the end of my bore guide is gone and I have very very little copper since bullet 14. American eagle 140 OTM says 2700fps on the box. My crony at 12' showed 2733 cold to 2749 shot 6 of the string.
Rifle is a cabella's 10T savage beast 2pc brake 24"barrel. Nightforce SHV 4-14x56. Outside of mounting the scope n bipod I tuned the trigger to 1.6#s then shot and cleaned after each shot to 25 including the tubbs TMS rounds. I put lock ease(collidal graphite)and patched that for the first 25 shots also.
The dial up could have an error and my speeds may be not what the crony displays. I really don't think it is too far off if it is at all. Typically I will get a few errors when it is off.

 

[Prieto9000]

I'm running a creedmoor with 215's under 47.8 to 48.1. I ran my ladder to 50.5 in Norma brass. I only ran46-49 in the peterson brass To load 49 and up you need a drop tube to not crunch real bad. It didn't grow but there is no room @2.855 coal My throat is at 2.857 with the 147's I didn't record the 140 serria but it was not much more than 2.800. I'm using a F1 crony so my speeds may not be what it says but my ladder was 21fps for each .5 grain increase. I thought it should be about 14-15 but I don't have any experience with the creed and very little with Rl26. 210's will cost some speed for lower es. I ran 5 tubb's throat maintenance bullets through this @BuLLet 7 through 12. I was patching it after each shot. The sticky spot 18ish" from the end of my bore guide is gone and I have very very little copper since bullet 14. American eagle 140 OTM says 2700fps on the box. My crony at 12' showed 2733 cold to 2749 shot 6 of the string.
Rifle is a cabella's 10T savage beast 2pc brake 24"barrel. Nightforce SHV 4-14x56. Outside of mounting the scope n bipod I tuned the trigger to 1.6#s then shot and cleaned after each shot to 25 including the tubbs TMS rounds. I put lock ease(collidal graphite)and patched that for the first 25 shots also.
The dial up could have an error and my speeds may be not what the crony displays. I really don't think it is too far off if it is at all. Typically I will get a few errors when it is off.

Thanks for your response. My creed is fast, but not that fast. I get high 2900´s with 42gr of RL-17 and CCI 200 primers pushing a 140 hybrid, but when I switch to the 143 ELD-X MV drops to 2880. I loose more than 100fps. I haven't tried the 147´s on it, maybe early next year. On my 6.5 GAP I get 3030fps with 143 ELS-X´s and when I switched to the 147´s I had to back down my load to 58gr of H1000 pushing them @2920fps. 60gr made a nipple on the case where the ejector plunger goes and the bolt gets very stiff.

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

Thanks for your response. My creed is fast, but not that fast. I get high 2900´s with 42gr of RL-17 and CCI 200 primers pushing a 140 hybrid, but when I switch to the 143 ELD-X MV drops to 2880. I loose more than 100fps. I haven't tried the 147´s on it, maybe early next year. On my 6.5 GAP I get 3030fps with 143 ELS-X´s and when I switched to the 147´s I had to back down my load to 58gr of H1000 pushing them @2920fps. 60gr made a nipple on the case where the ejector plunger goes and the bolt gets very stiff.

42 grains of rl-17 gives you high 2900s? What length barrel are you running? I'm running a 140 eld match with the same charge and I'm getting 2885

 

[Prieto9000]

26" Bartlein. Sorry I'm using 43gr, not 42.
Berger hybrid 140gr
Nosler Brass
RL-17 43gr
CCI 200
BTOL: 2.189"
This was a hot day, around 90*

On cooler days I get something like this.

Looks like this load gets a little jumpy on hot days ES and SD sky rocket.

 

[TXAoudadKlr]

Aoudad are well known to be super tough and hard to get into close range, and once pressured will run into the next County!

I'd look for something that holds together better like a Barnes TTSX, or the Nosler AB if it were me, but that's just my opinion. Either of those bullets will hit the mark if you do your part, and when they do, those bullets will penetrate far better then the ELD's, and are just as accurate if not more in most guns I've used them in.

Indeed they are but I haven't had issue killing them with my 6.5 and the 143. Mine has been used on 4 from 200 lbs to 305lbs with distances of 32 yards to 225 yards. The biggest was taken at 72 yards shot was neck/shoulder. Round hit the vertebrae and broke it to pieces but went no further. The furthest one had a clean pass through like what you normally see.

 

[TXAoudadKlr]

I took a relatively large boar at 85 yards. He was quartered I managed to slip it just behind that **** plate they have and the round exited in front of the far side shoulder (DRT). I gave an unneeded follow up, that round missed the spine but had a rough impact regardless, I found what was left in the brisket just under the hide. Was basically just the jacket, had bits of lead around the area.

 

[Hand Skills]

+1 on stickying terminal performance threads. This is a good one, and somehow I am only discovering it now.

To me, expansion/terminal performance really is a goldilocks situation. I want just the right amount of expansion, not too much, not too little. I have a lot less experience than some, but I don't think I will be trying the ELD-M (or X's based on what I have read here). Years ago I hit a coyote on the shoulder with 75gr AMAX, and he ran. Never did find him. It's possible the shot was bit low, but I have never had that happen with another bullet. I strongly suspect had I been using a ballistic tip, he would have dropped on the spot.

I LOVE Accubonds performance on deer. For me they produce consistent trauma, enough that I haven't had a deer go more that 25yd when poked with a double lung shot. They seem slower to expand than partitions or interbonds, and I like that they don't ruin much meat. They are tough enough to break bones on bigger animals with ease, so I can use them for any species. I suppose part of the mystique is I have recovered every animal shot with one, and have yet to recover a bullet.

Kind of curious to try the Peregine's @WildRose speaks so highly of, they are next on my list of projectiles to acquire.

 

[Hand Skills]

That's a placement problem rather than a bullet problem.

Seriously?

 

[elkaholic]

Seriously?

Since you are talking coyote, ANY bullet in the shoulder would have killed him IMO

 

[Hand Skills]

Since you are talking coyote, ANY bullet in the shoulder would have killed him IMO

I thought the same until that experience. The presentation was broadside, standing. Based on the evidence I presume impact was very near the shoulder joint itself. Pretty weird to disable only one leg and see him tricycle away.

I have made similar shots with 60gr ballistic tips (presently my bullet of choice for fur) and taken out both legs and a bit of sternum.

I've seen better performance from 45gr varmint bullets.

I acknowledge my case is isolated and flukey. Obviously shot placement was poor, but the resuls were SUPRISINGLY poor.

With the right shot placement, any bullet will do. What interests me in terminal performance discussions is what happens when placement is imperfect. How well does a bullet expand when it encounters only soft tissue? Does it hold together when encountering bone?