6.5 Creedmore Vs. 260 Rem

[waltercrouse]

What have been reading it seems that the 6.5creedmore is overshadowing the 260 Rem. The 6.5 creedmore uses a 300 savage case and the 260 Rem use a 308 win case. The 308 win father was the 300 savage case with a longer neck.gun)

 

[sable tireur]

waltercrouse,

I suppose if you wanted to take the parentage back even further, you could say that the .30-06 was the parent case. Truth be told, I'm not sure what difference it makes except for the sake of historic discussion. The cartridges are what they are and perform up to their respective specifications. If you want the correct parentage for the Creedmoor it is the 30 T/C case which was used to get the Creedmoor case.

The assessments have always been the same:

The 6.5 Creedmoor is an 'improved' version of the .260 Rem. with the 30 degree shoulder and longer neck. The case is shorter so that the VLD competition bullets can be seated out to magazine length and maintain case capacity.

Historically, Remington used the sloping shoulder to be certain that the case would feed consistently. No one at the time was worried about burning out barrels since these were hunting rifles and no one had invented PRS or other competitions which might burn out a barrel quickly.

This 'vs' has devolved into a love/hate discussion on many fronts with the supporters of each cartridge defending their choice fervently. I don't try to favor one over the other because I build both, it depends on what the clients wants. But for hunting and general shooting the .260 Rem. is certainly a good cartridge and is supported by Lapua brass. The Creedmoor beats the Rem. hands down in competition especially if you need the VLDs. It's a proprietary cartridge so only Hornady makes the brass. If you absolutely have to have Lapua brass, shoot the 6.5x47 Lapua. It's has a little less velocity but it is a superb target and hunting cartridge.

Regards.

 

[Mikecr]

My opinion: the 6.5x47L overshadows both cartridges in discussion.
This, because neither has the capacity for mid-node (2950-3050) with heaviest/best in 26cal bullets. You have to drop back to 123-130gr bullets, and the 6.5x47L covers these as good as you will see.
Not that there is anything wrong with lighter bullets, but where you're driving them to xxxx node, it's best to do so with fastest powder that provides a full case, in the smallest area case.

Again my opinion: Perfect capacity for 140gr bullets, and mid-node, is the 260AI.
This is what Lapua should have offered, as the 260 Rem is dead on arrival(it's fully understood to be under powered, nothing new). Creedmore just followed a mistaken cartridge capacity(260Rem) to begin.

For LR, the best cartridges will always suit a best balance.
I see competitive formats that default to challenging shooters with under powered cartridges(like a 308Win). This is not what LR hunters should follow.
And, we should resist ridiculous cartridges(like 264wm).

 

[sable tireur]

See what I mean?

 

[Barrelnut]

And don't forget that Lapua is supposed to announce Creedmoor brass with a small primer pocket at SHOT 2017.

 

[trickytune]

I really hate the fact local gun shops to me have no stock of 260 rem but have 6.5 creed in stock. But I have been wishing i had bought a 6.5x55 instead. They also have good ammo for these in stock. I have the dies but almost all my brass says 308 or 243 rather than 260.

 

[codyadams]

I really hate the fact local gun shops to me have no stock of 260 rem but have 6.5 creed in stock. But I have been wishing i had bought a 6.5x55 instead. They also have good ammo for these in stock. I have the dies but almost all my brass says 308 or 243 rather than 260.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/420958/lapua-reloading-brass-260-remington-box-of-100

Boom, 260 brass. I get my .260 from midway, they almost always have it in stock. Then I fire form to the 260 AI. Then I kill stuff.

 

[Waynzee]

I had a 260 Rem., it was ok but the 6.5 CM is a better cartridge. It does seem to handle the lighter and heavy bullets better.

 

[MudRunner2005]

.260 AI is still king of the SA 6.5mm cartridges with 6.5x47L fallowing closely. I have zero desire for a Creedmoor...

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

.260 AI is still king of the SA 6.5mm cartridges with 6.5x47L fallowing closely. I have zero desire for a Creedmoor...

Not talking about the 260 Ai..... title said 260 rem. I dont see what the 6.5X47 would have over the Creed if Lapua is coming out with brass to take a small rifle primer.

 

[gohring3006]

I love the little 6.5 Creedmoor, once one realizes that the highest velocity is not needed for accurate long range shooting, then any of the 6.5s are equally capable. Now we will have Lapua brass along with Hornady, Norma/Nosler brass..
My 6.5 Creed, is holding 1moa or better out to 1000 yards with less than 10 mils of elevation, so I won't be needing the extra velocity I might realize out of the Lapua brass..
It all come down to appeal between the two with me, and I think the .260 is a ugly cartridge.
So that made my decision..

 

[MudRunner2005]

I love the little 6.5 Creedmoor, once one realizes that the highest velocity is not needed for accurate long range shooting, then any of the 6.5s are equally capable. Now we will have Lapua brass along with Hornady, Norma/Nosler brass..
My 6.5 Creed, is holding 1moa or better out to 1000 yards with less than 10 mils of elevation, so I won't be needing the extra velocity I might realize out of the Lapua brass..
It all come down to appeal between the two with me, and I think the .260 is a ugly cartridge.
So that made my decision..

That's one reason why I love the AI cartridges...Function and appearance. Like a really fine woman who is also intelligent. Rare to find, but they do exist.

 

[gohring3006]

That's one reason why I love the AI cartridges...Function and appearance. Like a really fine woman who is also intelligent. Rare to find, but they do exist.

That's right Mudd!!

 

[waltercrouse]

I love the little 6.5 Creedmoor, once one realizes that the highest velocity is not needed for accurate long range shooting, then any of the 6.5s are equally capable. Now we will have Lapua brass along with Hornady, Norma/Nosler brass..
My 6.5 Creed, is holding 1moa or better out to 1000 yards with less than 10 mils of elevation, so I won't be needing the extra velocity I might realize out of the Lapua brass..
It all come down to appeal between the two with me, and I think the .260 is a ugly cartridge.
So that made my decision..

I think with all the info given I would buy the 6.5 Creedmoor over the 260 ,since it is an improved case ,already. With the 260 ,I would have to purchase a reamer and no-go gages to make it an improved case.