Will reloading disapear with the new too lazy to do it generation

[memtb]

Now factor in the cost of your press, dies, comparators, calipers, scale, powder thrower, powder trickler, funnels, cartridge boards, cost to build your reloading room, your hourly wage away from work or your limited family time...some things are worth more than money.

Is there anything that you do for "pure pleasure"……other than be argumentative? If you have a hobby……I'm pretty sure that it costs more than it makes and/or takes time away from family! memtb

 

[adam32+P]

Is there anything that you do for "pure pleasure"……other than be argumentative? If you have a hobby……I'm pretty sure that it costs more than it makes and/or takes time away from family! memtb

No, but other than being "lazy", I'm also a realist and a lot of times people cherry pick information to try and prove a point. Is reloading really "cheaper" than buying factory ammo? Perhaps yes... especially if you don't factor in ALL the costs associated.

I do reload, is it really worth it? To me, not really anymore except for cartridges I can't get factory ammo for. It's not enjoyable at this point in life, and for years all the hoarders ruined it for everyone.

How many guys reload just to get away from their family and then just stock pile the ammo and never actually shoot it?

But to continue being called lazy, dumb, worthless etc gets quite old.

 

[Ol' Red]

No, but other than being "lazy", I'm also a realist and a lot of times people cherry pick information to try and prove a point. Is reloading really "cheaper" than buying factory ammo? Perhaps yes... especially if you don't factor in ALL the costs associated.

I do reload, is it really worth it? To me, not really anymore except for cartridges I can't get factory ammo for. It's not enjoyable at this point in life, and for years all the hoarders ruined it for everyone.

How many guys reload just to get away from their family and then just stock pile the ammo and never actually shoot it?

But to continue being called lazy, dumb, worthless etc gets quite old.

Adam, I would never call you lazy, dumb or worthless. Every generation has hustlers, workers and lazy people. It's not generational. If it was then my generation of hippies would have condemned us all. Have a good day and happy shooting.

 

[jseandsje]

I think it's more that the younger generation doesn't have the disposable income like the past generations had, especially since most of us are currently paying for your retirements. I also don't know many people with $10k+ laying around to buy a shotgun they will never shoot.

How so? I'm paying into SS that I will most likely never receive, at least never the full amount I've paid into it, yet the past generations most definitely will get MORE than they ever paid into it. I'm also paying extra out of every single paycheck to cover "past retirees" for their retirement. Any state pensions like PERs where the "classic" members have gotten raises when they retire, us "new" employees are paying to fund those liabilities.

It is 100% fact that it was easier to live the "American dream" for the past generations than it is today. That is not even debatable. Inflation alone is crushing families.

No, but other than being "lazy", I'm also a realist and a lot of times people cherry pick information to try and prove a point. Is reloading really "cheaper" than buying factory ammo? Perhaps yes... especially if you don't factor in ALL the costs associated.

I do reload, is it really worth it? To me, not really anymore except for cartridges I can't get factory ammo for. It's not enjoyable at this point in life, and for years all the hoarders ruined it for everyone.

How many guys reload just to get away from their family and then just stock pile the ammo and never actually shoot it?

But to continue being called lazy, dumb, worthless etc gets quite old.

Man, It's excusable to not like being called lazy.
But man 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Just remember a lot of folks here are one generation removed from the "Greatest Generation". People that gave for no other reason than they knew it was right.
Man I don't know who is paying for what, but if some of our earnings go to help older people - that feels good. And yea some may be wasted, but thank God not all.
It's funny how something as simple as reloading can make us say Divisive things.

I'm as guilty as anyone.

Man just think about the good you know you do. And build upon in.
As I said before, there is no lazy generation
It's all goons be alright.

I just wish this thread had been titled "I hope some of the younger generation can find the time to reload"

 

[memtb]

No, but other than being "lazy", I'm also a realist and a lot of times people cherry pick information to try and prove a point. Is reloading really "cheaper" than buying factory ammo? Perhaps yes... especially if you don't factor in ALL the costs associated.

I do reload, is it really worth it? To me, not really anymore except for cartridges I can't get factory ammo for. It's not enjoyable at this point in life, and for years all the hoarders ruined it for everyone.

How many guys reload just to get away from their family and then just stock pile the ammo and never actually shoot it?

But to continue being called lazy, dumb, worthless etc gets quite old.

I agree with most of you post, and vehemently disagree with your position in previous posts!

That said, not everyone attempts to shoot "near match" precision out to 1K yrds and beyond!

For these people, shooting a commercially produced cartridge …..Lee still makes the Lee Classic Loader in many popular cartridges. For a very minimal expenditure…..very accurate ammunition can be produced!

Is it fast, is it "boutique"- not hardly! But quality reloads can be produced!

From the Lee Loader, an individual can slowly over the years accumulate equipment sufficiently fast, while producing accurate ammo!

But, much like young folks of today wanting a "starter home" equivalent to or better than the home that required a working career for their parents to achieve…… they think they should start-out with the top of the line equipment!

The idea of "baby steps" is a completely foreign concept! memtb

 

[adam32+P]

But, much like young folks of today wanting a "starter home" equivalent to or better than the home that required a working career for their parents to achieve…… they think they should start-out with the top of the line equipment!

The idea of "baby steps" is a completely foreign concept! memtb

Completely agree, and sadly I think we are to blame for that. We, as in online forums, "influencers", youtube experts, podcasts etc...because unless someone is using an Area419 press, SAC dies, high BC bullets, CNC brass and RL26 then everything else is just junk according to all the "experts" and you will never be able to kill a critter.

Same with rifles, unless you're running a BAT action with a Proof PXT barrel topped with a ZCO then you should just stay home and not even bother going deer hunting with your Rem 700 and Leupold.

 

[MarkInPA]

You saw my post where I showed what my dad started with. Nothing but a nutcracker hand dies and an old powder dispenser. He had a card that listed how to adjust the slide to get the desired charge weights for each powder. No scale and that all he had except for maybe a wooden loading block and a deburring tool. Eventually, he upgraded to a RCBS JR2 press with RCBS dies. Later bought a RCBS 5-10 scale with powder trickler. There was nothing wrong with his reloads and they served us well for our hunting and he did not invest a fortune on his limited salary. I was fortunate enough to inherit his tools when he passed away and I still use them although I have made my own improvements from time to time. I was lucky that I didn't have the initial investment. Today I have a RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme, mostly Redding and Forster dies, an electronic powder dispenser, and the Sinclair / Wilson trimmer. I didn't make these investments all at one time. I have been at this a little while myself now and I've added these pieces over the years. The point is that you don't have to have the best of everything to make quality reloads.

 

[jseandsje]

Completely agree, and sadly I think we are to blame for that. We, as in online forums, "influencers", youtube experts, podcasts etc...because unless someone is using an Area419 press, SAC dies, high BC bullets, CNC brass and RL26 then everything else is just junk according to all the "experts" and you will never be able to kill a critter.

Same with rifles, unless you're running a BAT action with a Proof PXT barrel topped with a ZCO then you should just stay home and not even bother going deer hunting with your Rem 700 and Leupold.

I don't own any custom rifles/components because I tend to go the economy route (own a lot of Savages, older ones).

But in a way I'm indebted to the folks who buy the custom stuff because rifle manufacturers compete against the custom stuff, so must continually up their offerings.

I see it all as a good mix.