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Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by gusd, Oct 20, 2019.
Since we have slipped into the abyss...
I have changed the term to Hammered. Much easier to say.
Lol I like it. Just got my 285's in the mail, excited to get some loaded up in my .338 Norma Mag!! Ha ha
Very much looking forward to your results. Its a long bullet will probably have to be single fed.
I like to call it taking a dirt nap.
Dead Right There.
To me that means it quickly died where it was shot, never moving anywhere but straight down.
Last weekend we were in Lusk Wyoming hunting do antelope. I had my 257 Roberts loaded to +P velocities with 100g TTSX. My first doe, at 116 lasered yards, trotted off for about 7-8 seconds before going wobbly. NOT DRT, even though the hit was good, one lung had a thumb-sized hole through it and we could not positively identify anything in the mealy red soup that was the second lung.
Second doe dropped instantly as was dead when I arrived at it, about 220 yards away. DRT as far as I'm concerned as I never saw any movement after it hit the ground.
Daughter #1 used the Roberts to take her doe as well, about 300 yards. The TTSX kicked up dust behind her and I thought she missed until an instant later when the doe thumped the ground. She died sometime between instantly and the time it took us to get to her, but there was no motion that we could detect. Another DRT.
Exactly. Most of the time I see DRT thrown around, it was a bad shot that hit the spine and the animal is flailing around as the camera quickly zooms out. Im with you, if it runs 50yds and goes down you know its dead! I have killed elk with 168 vlds, 215 hybrids, 195 hybrids, 200 accubonds, and 300 hybrids. All heart/lung shot, all ran 50-100yds.
Well I don't give a hoot what you call it as long as I get a Drt or was it dtr or rtd oh boy you got me confused better have another cup of mud
As I've read a lot of post over the last couple year DRT, dead right there and my gun shoots 1/2 moa all the time are used pretty loosely these days.
My idea of DRT is when after the shot, the critter goes to take a step and falls on it's face... and stays there. It is the best possible shot one can achieve. "Anchored" is another good shot. The critter drops but may require a follow up shot to make it truly dead.
Anything that kills the critter to where I can still find it is also good, just not as good as drt or anchored.
Anything that requires help finding the critter is a fail as far as I'm concerned. The worst possible outcome is not being able to find it at all.
I've had a number of DRT (dead right there) kills over the years but lately I'd rather just "Hammer" them.
Dead right there means it did not take another step. Whether it takes a few gasp for it expires is not important to me. If it takes 10 minutes but never took another step, I guess it's dead right there but I wouldn't call it DRT.
This is exactly why I've taken up cladistic taxonomy. It's hard to find an area of knowledge where you can get into a protracted debate which is completely meaningless yet still brings huge amounts of disagreement, if not good old fashioned animosity. It's natural because that's what happens when we try to apply rigid labelling to a thing with an arguable definition.
I like Dirt Nap.
It may mean Dont Take Risk like he is only 50 yards across the fence. Or ain't nobody behind us is there.