What do you think they should get?

Yep if someone brings in or tells DNR about dead eagle, owl,or a hawk they might investigate a bit further. Could be it goes to a lab or a veterinarian hospital for an X-ray. Lead shows up plain as day if bird got shot . If ingested, be there in the gizzard, on X-rays. Any lead level in the blood is not safe. They'll no longer be able to keep er between the navigational beacons. Throws off their compass. Eagles don't chew their meat , so they can't spit out a BB , they gulp it down and the gizzard turns it into flight hours.
 
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Yep if someone brings in or tells DNR about dead eagle, owl,or a hawk they might investigate a bit further. Could be it goes to a lab or a veterinarian hospital for an X-ray. Lead shows up plain as day if bird got shot . If ingested, be there in the gizzard, on X-rays. Any lead level in the blood is not safe. They'll no longer be able to keep er between the navigational beacons. Throws off their compass. Eagles don't chew their meat , so they can't spit out a BB , they gulp it down and the gizzard turns it into flight hours.

Looks to me like they endanger themselves. Starving your kin to death. And then it was said to be DDT as a killer in the 70s to eagles. Keep believing the lead is killing the mass of Eagles & condors or whatnot. As stated from the article
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During the early 1970s, the bald eagle population experienced a steep decline due to DDT's widespread use.

Seeing juvenile and immature eagles during the 1970s was a rare event. This was because the components of DDT interfered with female bald eagles' ability to produce eggs with thick-enough shells.

Most nests failed because the eggs would easily break with just the gentle weight of an incubating adult. Very few juveniles were produced every year.

In what is now a successful conservation story, the Bald Eagle has regained numbers and continues to recover to the point that it is now fairly common in certain areas.

Bald eagles are now seen near bodies of water and sitting on utility posts and other places.


Feeding of the bald eagle eaglets

The first eaglet is fed the first day after hatching and quickly develops a size advantage over the second and third eaglet. During the first 2 and a half weeks, the male brings food for both the female and the chicks.

During the first days after hatching, the female tears tiny pieces of what the male brings to feed the young eagles. As the eaglets grow, both parents tear bigger pieces of food.

By the 4th week, both parents begin to forage for food and bring about the same amount of food to the nest. As the chicks grow older, the female appears to bring more food to the nest than the male.

At about the 7th week, the chicks begin to tear pieces of the fish the parents bring to the nest.

The first hatchling gets most of the food most of the time

Field observations of adult bald eagles feeding three 4-week-old eaglets recorded dismal differences in the amount of food each eaglet gets. An adult eagle brought a large fish to the nest and fed the largest eaglet 67% of the fish, while the second eaglet received 18.9 % and the third eaglet 13.7%.

In another nest, with three baby eagles, the differences were even more dramatic. The largest eaglet received 96% of the fish, while the second-largest eaglet received 2.5%, and the third chick only received 1.2% of the fish. In this last nest, the smallest eaglet eventually died from starvation.

 
Keep believing the lead is killing the mass of Eagles & condors or whatnot.
You just said not too long ago that 9/13 condors that died were due to lead toxicity. That sounds like a majority to me. I'm not saying DDT isn't a contributing factor, I'm sure it is.

Survival of the fittest plays into them starving to death. Eagles aren't the only ones that do that. They would rather have one really strong eaglet than 3 weaker ones.
 
You just said not too long ago that 9/13 condors that died were due to lead toxicity. That sounds like a majority to me. I'm not saying DDT isn't a contributing factor, I'm sure it is.

Survival of the fittest plays into them starving to death. Eagles aren't the only ones that do that. They would rather have one really strong eaglet than 3 weaker ones.
Where did I say that ? Or was it in the experts post ?
 
You bring up good points. The thing that is problematic here is that the man made toxins being released into the environment are not only affecting the animals but are also affecting mankind. Lead shot started being used because it was cheap, available, and effective. More often than not, the animals start having health problems sooner that humans. Many factors cause this. Such as, weight, nervous system, and live birth vs egg laying. And more others than I could count. We are now (admitting) that after 20 years, personnel exposed to burn Pits are coming down with horrible afflictions. Myself included. But the damage is done. It's not like anyone exposed actually ate it. Some were litterly covered and others just inhaled fumes. Look at the after effects. As some point we (mankind) must stop putting the almighty buck in front of our stewardship of the only planet we have. Once we contaminate it, its over! The balance here is the crap show of pros and cons. If we are to survive, hard decisions must be made. I do not have the necessary experience to make those decisions. I pray someone does and will make the sound decisions!
My oldest son has problems with that, from being over there. I got cancer from being in Vietnam.
What we have to learn if we are going to fight. Then fight and get it done. Or, don't go. We try and play by the rules, but the others don't. Either we are going to go in and finish it or don't go at all. The 2nd Bush and Obama wasn't worth a ****. Trump from what I can see was cleaning it up. ISIS gone in 9 months. Obama said it couldn't be done.
A lot of men screwed up for the rest of their lives, or dead and for what? Don't P*ss down the back of my neck and tell me it's raining.
 
My oldest son has problems with that, from being over there. I got cancer from being in Vietnam.
What we have to learn if we are going to fight. Then fight and get it done. Or, don't go. We try and play by the rules, but the others don't. Either we are going to go in and finish it or don't go at all. The 2nd Bush and Obama wasn't worth a ****. Trump from what I can see was cleaning it up. ISIS gone in 9 months. Obama said it couldn't be done.
A lot of men screwed up for the rest of their lives, or dead and for what? Don't P*ss down the back of my neck and tell me it's raining.
I am really sorry to hear about your son and your health issues. It is absolutely horrible! My father in law died from Agent Orange exposure. I hope your son is able to use some of the PACT VA funding available. I will pray for you both. HANG TOUGH! Those ISIS rats breed like the rats they are and scatter like them when it gets hot. And we all know how hard it is to kill rats. Stay safe and have fun.
 
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It's sacred to us Americans But north of the border, a guide once told me they taste better than any duck.
That's a decades-old guide prank - to say 'they are delicious'. They love to tell that one to get a reaction out of you (or to see if you are a horrible person). I've heard it more than once. And now I tell it too, just to get a rise out of people. So far I have been pleased that everyone has been horrified at my comment, until they realize I'm kidding.
 
Questions 21.d. - 21.n. Prohibited Persons: Generally, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g) prohibits the shipment, transportation, receipt, or possession in or affecting interstate commerce of a firearm by one who: has been convicted of a felony in any Federal, including a general court-martial, State or local court, or any other crime, punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; is a fugitive from justice; is an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance; has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution; has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; is subject to certain restraining orders; convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence under Federal, including a general court-martial, State or Tribal law; has renounced his/her U.S. citizenship; is an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa. Furthermore, 18 U.S.C. § 922(n) prohibits the shipment, transportation, or receipt in or affecting interstate commerce of a firearm by one who is under indictment or information for a felony in any Federal, including a general court-martial, State or local court, or any other crime, punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. An information is a formal accusation of a crime verified by a prosecutor
I don't care what that says, They were doing background checks and selling them guns, They could barely speak english.
 
Yep. I guess my sarcasm was lost in the text
Heh. Sorry, yea, I missed the subtle part there. We really do need a punctuation mark for sarcasm sometimes.

But honestly, the times people were convinced I was serious... It's odd what people fall for.

(I'm just happy I didn't take the bait on the Silent Spring comments. That debate gets ugly & fast.)
 
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