Thanks to everyone who has posted. I have no problem investing in a better rail, hell, i thought the EGW was a decent one? I originally started with a two piece Weaver rail but it seemed to give very little distance in order to adjust the eye relief, plus i intially ordered some Vortex tactical rings, which are really wide. The EGW is a 0 degree rail and i know it's mounted correctly and it is an aluminum one. I will post some pics when i have a minute, have to head out of town for business for a few days. I really wonder if it isn't the rings? I do not like the vertically split rings, never used them before this set-up and they weren't the easiest to try to lap. I didn't get overly aggressive with the lapping either, so maybe try more of that? i also don't like the quick release levered type but they are tight, so i don't think that is this issue. I will try taking it all back apart and perhaps getting a metal rail and new horiztonal split rings? Again, i have shot/hunted all my life and all i have ever done is buy a scope, rings, whatever and mounted it without much "doing it the absolute right way" and never had any problems. This one, because i want to do everything to make it a tack driver, has given me nothing but fits. I have plenty of Vortex products, so if it is the scope I know Vortex will stand behind it.