eye relief issues

[Themsah]

So I purchased a R700sps in .300wm (my first ever new rifle) I took it to the range yesterday for the first time. It came with a very cheap scope mounted on it. All day at the range I kept hitting my shooting glasses with the scope from the recoil. I tried moving the scope further forward in the rings. When I did this I couldnt see anything out of it. The only way I can see clearly out of the scope is with about a 1.5" eye relief.

My other rifle, a Tikka 7mmRM (i bought used and already setup) has a Leupold scope mounted at about 4" eye relief and work perfectly and has never hit me in the face.

My questions are is it the 300wm that has much more kick than the 7mm ( I dont think so)?

Is the eye relief issue because the scope that comes with the gun super cheap and I just need a new scope?

Is it something I might be doing wrong?

thanks for the input gun)

 

[Broz]

A very large percentage of the time when you get hit it is totally due to poor form. My guess is you were on a bench and seated too high for a good hold. Get off the bench and go prone. Get the recoil pad on your shoulder properly and I bet you never get hit again.

Jeff

 

[D.ID]

I agree this is probably a shooters position issue but if you literally only have 1.5" of eye relief regardless of position: your going to need a new scope but from the sounds of it you need a new scope anyway, don't waist your first new rifle with substandard optics.

 

[HARPERC]

I agree this is probably a shooters position issue but if you literally only have 1.5" of eye relief regardless of position: your going to need a new scope but from the sounds of it you need a new scope anyway, don't waist your first new rifle with substandard optics.

Most of the manufactures list eye relief in the specs, google the bigger names and compare to what you've got. Is this a variable scope, and how much variance in eye relief minimum to maximum have you got?
Actually looked back, and you've responded. Depending on bullet weight, gun weight, powder charge, stock design, fit, and form. Felt recoil can be a fair amount more.

 

[CogburnR]

1.5" eye relief isn't enough on a magnum. I like at least 3.5".

 

[FEENIX]

1.5" eye relief isn't enough on a magnum. I like at least 3.5".

+1! Anything under 3.5" is a tad too close for my comfort esp. on magnums.

 

[D.ID]

With good position you do not need much eye relief and should be rolling with the recoil so the scope should not be jumping at you at all, theoretically. No scope I have ever seen has that short of eye relief by design, so something is wrong with the scope if that is the case. My favorite scopes only have 3" but like I said, you and the scope should be recoiling in unison anyway.

 

[Lefty7mmstw]

Those scopes rem. is putting on the adl and sps line are not good. The one I got on my 7rem adl had about 2" of eye relief and would wack me every once in a while. I dumped the thing for a better scope.

I saw one 30 cal mag ( a rum I think) with one of these cheap remmy scopes on a returned rifle at my lgs with scratches on the side. Looking at it a bit closer revealed blood on the eyepiece.

 

[D.ID]

Those scopes rem. is putting on the adl and sps line are not good. The one I got on my 7rem adl had about 2" of eye relief and would wack me every once in a while. I dumped the thing for a better scope.

I saw one 30 cal mag ( a rum I think) with one of these cheap remmy scopes on a returned rifle at my lgs with scratches on the side. Looking at it a bit closer revealed blood on the eyepiece.

That is like buying a brand new car with bald tires. It will get you home but it aint right and you'll never get the full experience trying to use that junk. I see savage started at least using nikons recently, So with that exception most of the "package" scopes are so bad I would not even bother to sight it in until I changed it.

Yes, I know someone who "has hunted 20 years" with some simmons crap that came with the rifle but then again he has not checked his zero in 19 years and can't seam to hit nothing (the hunting gods have stacked the deck against him personally). I know someone who claims he has might be more accurate terminology and know is a relative term in this case.