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If a 300 was necked to 7 it would be more than 4 or 5 gr less than a 28. My suggestion? A 7 practical. Gives up very little to the 28 and uses less powder and will go in a shorter box than the 300 prc. I need to be careful here because some of these new bullets are a long as your little finger
My suggestion. I am sure you will be happy with your max. Good luck and happy hunting!!
I had to look. 74 of 1000 gives 3000 with the 180 eldm out of a 26
Why some like chevys and others like fords. Neither is right or wrong
Hi Dave
That is awesome. Almost seems like snake oil to me. Cubic inches count. I understand the short fats are more efficient but it is almost unbelieveable. I guess just learning curve for me.
Its true! People are finding out it isnt snake oil
I assume longer throating and longer oal. And also a little looser throat?
I got in a big row on here a few nights ago about cases. Belted or not belted. In the end a case is nothing more than a vessel to contain pressure. The modern belted cases the belt is just cosmetic. People decided they did not like that. On the other side of the fence are the bas tard Jeffery designs with rebated rims. Marketing has done wonders. I really do not understand why Winchester copied Remington with the rebated rim. They did not need to. Remington did it so they did not need to alter their bolt. And the straighter and more square a casing is the harder it is to make it feed. I like them going in and out like greasy sausages. So here we are. Personal preference. I have both designs. Winchester!!! Look at the 300 win mag. They needed to stuff as much powder as possible into a case and get it in a 3.4 box so a no throat chamber and the bullet very deep in the case. The thing I can not understand is the model 70 they made for the H&H cases. I recently designed a 6.5 x 300 win mag. Really hard, I took a normal length model 70. Drilled the spot welds on the spacer in the box. Presto. 3.6 box. No changing the bolt stop or anything else.
The 458,338, 300. They could have competed with weatherby and made a 458 Lott without the shortcomings of their original designs. And the 7 rem mag. They really missed the boat on that. But no. They had to juice everybody to get their long action they made for 2 cartridges. Idiots
I agree and the short mags were not well thought out either. It started with the 6.5 RM and then continued on with the saum and wsm being too long to run high b c bullets without Taking up case capacity.I got in a big row on here a few nights ago about cases. Belted or not belted. In the end a case is nothing more than a vessel to contain pressure. The modern belted cases the belt is just cosmetic. People decided they did not like that. On the other side of the fence are the bas tard Jeffery designs with rebated rims. Marketing has done wonders. I really do not understand why Winchester copied Remington with the rebated rim. They did not need to. Remington did it so they did not need to alter their bolt. And the straighter and more square a casing is the harder it is to make it feed. I like them going in and out like greasy sausages. So here we are. Personal preference. I have both designs. Winchester!!! Look at the 300 win mag. They needed to stuff as much powder as possible into a case and get it in a 3.4 box so a no throat chamber and the bullet very deep in the case. The thing I can not understand is the model 70 they made for the H&H cases. I recently designed a 6.5 x 300 win mag. Really hard, I took a normal length model 70. Drilled the spot welds on the spacer in the box. Presto. 3.6 box. No changing the bolt stop or anything else.
Another thing while I am at it. I understand that at the time Winchester did this the short magnums of the time were all the craze. Take a springfield, enfield, mauser. Run the reamer in and open the bolt and good to go. But if Winchester had done what I said they would have cut out all those other actions. Or at least made it a lot more work. The heaven of a bean counter with a turkey neck and a tieI got in a big row on here a few nights ago about cases. Belted or not belted. In the end a case is nothing more than a vessel to contain pressure. The modern belted cases the belt is just cosmetic. People decided they did not like that. On the other side of the fence are the bas tard Jeffery designs with rebated rims. Marketing has done wonders. I really do not understand why Winchester copied Remington with the rebated rim. They did not need to. Remington did it so they did not need to alter their bolt. And the straighter and more square a casing is the harder it is to make it feed. I like them going in and out like greasy sausages. So here we are. Personal preference. I have both designs. Winchester!!! Look at the 300 win mag. They needed to stuff as much powder as possible into a case and get it in a 3.4 box so a no throat chamber and the bullet very deep in the case. The thing I can not understand is the model 70 they made for the H&H cases. I recently designed a 6.5 x 300 win mag. Really hard, I took a normal length model 70. Drilled the spot welds on the spacer in the box. Presto. 3.6 box. No changing the bolt stop or anything else.
I agree. The prc needs at least a 3 inch box. But I do like it is not rebated. I have to hand it to you. You are getting incredible speeds. I did not fall off a turnip truck yesterday. I can see how you are doing it. But I like it. You are a innovator!!
