Kiwi. Paste wax, too. Those cracks and holes? I fill them with the wax and for clean up, I take a hot air gun for shrink tubing and melt I it out. And if I don't get all, it's not a big deal. If it's critical that it comes out, or off, Brakleen seems to do the trick.
Release agent for glass bedding??
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Tried many different things, blue gel, PAM, WD40, Johnson, Kiwi, Imperial wax, Case lube and a bunch of others. Most of the liquid ones don't dry and don't leave a thin smooth finish.
What a guy wants is a release agent that goes on very thin, perfectly smooth and easy to apply. After years of trial I have found that any Carnuba based paste wax is the best solution and best if it does not contain silicone of Teflon. Apply a coat, buff to a shine after drying, apply a second coat and do the same. I have never worried about degreasing the barrel or action. I use modeling clay to fill any voids.
The Carnuba wax provides a perfectly smooth and even shiny finish in the Devcon bedding, releases very easily. One thing when bedding, you are better to leave the bedding at least 24 hours before popping the action out as it gives a much smoother finish and releases far better. Many guys pop them out too soon because they are worried about the action sticking in the stock.
What a guy wants is a release agent that goes on very thin, perfectly smooth and easy to apply. After years of trial I have found that any Carnuba based paste wax is the best solution and best if it does not contain silicone of Teflon. Apply a coat, buff to a shine after drying, apply a second coat and do the same. I have never worried about degreasing the barrel or action. I use modeling clay to fill any voids.
The Carnuba wax provides a perfectly smooth and even shiny finish in the Devcon bedding, releases very easily. One thing when bedding, you are better to leave the bedding at least 24 hours before popping the action out as it gives a much smoother finish and releases far better. Many guys pop them out too soon because they are worried about the action sticking in the stock.
Clay Target Guy
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I use Johnson's paste wax or Hornady One Shot case lube. Both have been great.
IF I had to choose between the two, I would choose Johnson's. I feel that I get a little better release with the Johnson's over the One Shot but clean up is easier with the One Shot.
IF I had to choose between the two, I would choose Johnson's. I feel that I get a little better release with the Johnson's over the One Shot but clean up is easier with the One Shot.
i used a brownells kit on the first rifle i ever bedded and it was a pain to get it apart. i probably didnt apply enough release agent, but that's what got me started looking for other products to use.
J E Custom
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I have tried them all and found that Past wax works best "BUT" you must use a wax that hardens. Of all the wax that is available, I use Birchwood Casey Stock wax. This wax is easy to apply with your fingers, dries in 1 hour and can be wiped off to form a thin smooth surface that will release well.
When I use this wax, I make sure that I coat every place that the bedding will/might see and then apply it to the rest of the action to prevent the compound from sticking to an area that I don't want it to,
to aid in clean up.
When bedding is complete The wax can be easily removed with any solvent and then a coat of oil is used. I also use Lacquer Thinner to clean the action and the stock before applying the wax to the action, being careful not to touch ether stock or the action with any contaminates that would prevent the wax from adhering to the action. and the bedding compound from bonding to the stock.
I also recommend using the wax on the action screws to prevent them from sticking.
Irregardless of the Type of release agent used, proper prep of all surfaces is a must and this is not a place to get in a hurry.
Just what I use
J E CUSTOM
When I use this wax, I make sure that I coat every place that the bedding will/might see and then apply it to the rest of the action to prevent the compound from sticking to an area that I don't want it to,
to aid in clean up.
When bedding is complete The wax can be easily removed with any solvent and then a coat of oil is used. I also use Lacquer Thinner to clean the action and the stock before applying the wax to the action, being careful not to touch ether stock or the action with any contaminates that would prevent the wax from adhering to the action. and the bedding compound from bonding to the stock.
I also recommend using the wax on the action screws to prevent them from sticking.
Irregardless of the Type of release agent used, proper prep of all surfaces is a must and this is not a place to get in a hurry.
Just what I use
J E CUSTOM
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NEMTHunter
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Thanks to all for the input. I appreciate it. The prep time is something I do not enjoy and that was one reason to look for a spray on that would work great.
From the looks of it If I would have had a poll, Kiwi would have won so far with a wax coming in as second.
Very good info here. keep it coming. If anything maybe this thread will help somebody get started with glass beading.
From the looks of it If I would have had a poll, Kiwi would have won so far with a wax coming in as second.
Very good info here. keep it coming. If anything maybe this thread will help somebody get started with glass beading.
J E Custom
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The only problem I had with shoe polish was the non hardening requirements for shoes that Made it more susceptible to being displaced when applying the bedding compound. I had to be real careful when inserting the barreled action into the bedding. NOTE
It was going away better than the film release agents supplied about not slipping. The only reason I switched to stock wax is because of the hardening feature that eliminated one more possible problem.
If everything goes well. any good wax will work better than the film type release. I also tried the sprays, and found them not dependable in there coverage. To be predictable, I even use one type of bedding compound as long as it is available for the same. I have bedded hundreds of different actions and each has their on rules, so a good dependable bedding and release agent only helps to deal with other issues that present themselves.
Using my fingers, I can push wax in any crease or pin/screw hole with confidence knowing that it is protected from bonding of the bedding compound. It may be slower, but this stage is not a good place to try and save time. If it sticks, you will spend a lot more time trying to get the action out of the stock and may end up placing it in the freezer over night to get it out, and if bedding gets in the wrong place and mechanically locks the action to the stock, you may lose the stock.
J E CUSTOM
BrentM
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I found the blue gel only goes on evenly with a super clean and degreased action etc. Then it seems to work fine. Wax is good, used it a lot, and fills in holes, cervices etc nicely. I do like the one shot lube as well. If the action is clean the one shot and gel work. If not, they tend to pool. Lately I have used wax and one shot together and have some really nice finished bedding jobs.
1snowcat
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McLube for the win sprays on and pops out perfect try it you won't go back to paste, or wax...
Danny Butler
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You laugh..... I use Pam cooking spray... cheap easy to find and works great. Some say it contaminants the bedding gel. I have not had that problem...
Frank Kalisz
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I used the neutral kiwi shoe polish for even surfaces, and I used plumbers putty where I needed to put a filler. Worked like a charm for me
rem.xp100
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I have used the paste wax with good results but the Acra-Release Aerosol from Brownells is my go to for 95% of bedding work. Has never let me down, smooth finish with Devcon. Sprays as a thin layer gets in all the cracks and crevices. Can spray over modeling clay used for plugs, tape, etc.. I have also used 1700L spray release but don't like it quite as well though it does do the job.
sodakota
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I've used different waxes and they work well. I now use shoe polish exclusively.
Travis H
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Best stuff i have found that will last you and you kids and grandkids life times worth of bedding stocks.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000DIWIM/?tag=lrhmag19-20
