Please tell me what I'am doing wrong. My cleaning process is as follows -Nylon brush with sweets (wait 5 to 10 minutes) -dry patch -butch's bore shine -dry patch -butchs bore shine -dry patch -dry patch The question is does sweets loose its potentcy. I seem to get more blue copper out with butchs than with the sweets. I have heard this in the past but not from a "competent" source. I have seen this procedure used on 1000 yd hunting guns that consistently shoot 8 inch groups.