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Hunting meat or target or practice or load development but it's never for the hell of it!
 
Pretty simple, don't buy at the inflated prices!
Can't shoot without primers anyway, what's the point of shooting for the H of it if all you can find are powder and primers(if you can find any) at inflated prices.
I haven't shot just for the H of it in 2-3 years.
My buddy has had all that hoarded for about 20 years, am pretty jealous!! H1000 at $20 a bottle and primers for an unbelievable amount
 
I did not realize how hard it was to get. Till recently. I could have bought 5 lb at an Estate sale. Now I'm regretting not buying it. lol Being new to reloading I didn't realize it's importance. It won't happen again.
I think we all got a lesson this time around, I am currently good on projectiles for life, could use some more primers and of course some powder. I am loading Accurate 4350 now to fill the void of H4350 and IMR 4350 it is working out well.
 
Just on Hodgon's website and they have popular powders but the prices are super high.
Is this the new normal?
Those prices are what everyone is selling it at in this day in age, I do miss the good ole days as well. Although I have been very fortunate in regards to H1000 being that I scored 15 pounds over the last couple of months. H4831sc has been a treat got that at 45.00 a pound but hazmat and shipping costs were 77.00, got blistered on that purchase
 
Well if anyone needs some Fed small rifle champions I have some extra! Am willing to share, I think I have 3000 left, but paid a lot for them so not sure if any of yall are interested😂
 
Just on Hodgon's website and they have popular powders but the prices are super high.
Is this the new normal?
I have recently bought H335, CF223 and CFEPistol at prices much lower than what I see at this web site, but these may reflect a recent price change. I guess we all have become used to the lower prices of the past. I just used up the last of some IMR4320 that was purchased a long time ago. The sticker on the can (yes can not bottle) said $8.95. I am on the Hodgdon website right now and IMR4320 is no longer offered. It's too bad since it was a very good powder for loading match ammo for the .308 and 30-06. Getting back to the current prices, IMR4350, which is currently out of stock is $52.99 for a pound bottle. There are 7000 grains in a pound of powder so that equates to $0.007 per grain of powder. Multiply that by the number of grains used, in one of my loads 52 is the magic number will now cost me $0.39 per cartridge. Still pretty reasonable. Where I am finding the issues is with the cost of bullets. Bullets I used to be able to buy for $20 per 100 are now going for over $50. That makes the cost of the bullet to be over $1 each. New brass we don't even want to discuss as for most of the common cartridges add another $1. I guess I don't have to mention that we are now coming up to the costs of factory loaded ammo. So is reloading a cost savings? These days probably not so much. Is reloading a better way to improve the accuracy and performance of you pet rifle? Very much. Do I buy factory ammo? Certainly since it's a good way to get almost new brass to reload. Besides that I get to compare the factory to my reloads for accuracy. I buy mostly Federal ammo and to be honest it's pretty difficult to improve the performance of the Federal Premium line.
 
Hunting meat or target or practice or load development but it's never for the hell of it!
Same here, I would sling bullets and use up components practicing a LOT more before all this…..I started reloading a year or two before all this crap happened and I've got a bit of components stocked up but they can quickly go away if I continued doing what I was doing before all these "shortages" happened.
 
There's no such thing as hoarding. It's call preparation for a later date. It's just like having extra freezers and extra food in your pantry. You save food for later ? Some of us buy components so that we always have stuff for later. Some of us help out customers that are having guns built so they can justify the rifle they are having built. But there really is not such thing as hoarding components. If someone wants to have stockpiles of components then by all means. It's a free country for now….
 
Same here, I would sling bullets and use up components practicing a LOT more before all this…..I started reloading a year or two before all this crap happened and I've got a bit of components stocked up but they can quickly go away if I continued doing what I was doing before all these "shortages" happened.
Oh I've definitely slowed down at least 50% for all the same reasons. I'm just saying I never fire any ammunition just for the hell of it
 
Is this the new normal?
Yes, it is, as long as folks continue to buy powder at these extreme prices. Stop buying/hoarding powder, let the volume build up in stores and storage facilities, and the prices will come down. Reloading powder in not an inelastic commodity like gasoline and basic staples. This reminds me of several years ago under the Obama regime, everyone thought "they" were going to take away our guns, so $600 AR-15s became $1,500 AR-15s...a year or two later those $1,500 ARs became $600 guns...things that make you go Hmmm!
 
I have recently bought H335, CF223 and CFEPistol at prices much lower than what I see at this web site, but these may reflect a recent price change. I guess we all have become used to the lower prices of the past. I just used up the last of some IMR4320 that was purchased a long time ago. The sticker on the can (yes can not bottle) said $8.95. I am on the Hodgdon website right now and IMR4320 is no longer offered. It's too bad since it was a very good powder for loading match ammo for the .308 and 30-06. Getting back to the current prices, IMR4350, which is currently out of stock is $52.99 for a pound bottle. There are 7000 grains in a pound of powder so that equates to $0.007 per grain of powder. Multiply that by the number of grains used, in one of my loads 52 is the magic number will now cost me $0.39 per cartridge. Still pretty reasonable. Where I am finding the issues is with the cost of bullets. Bullets I used to be able to buy for $20 per 100 are now going for over $50. That makes the cost of the bullet to be over $1 each. New brass we don't even want to discuss as for most of the common cartridges add another $1. I guess I don't have to mention that we are now coming up to the costs of factory loaded ammo. So is reloading a cost savings? These days probably not so much. Is reloading a better way to improve the accuracy and performance of you pet rifle? Very much. Do I buy factory ammo? Certainly since it's a good way to get almost new brass to reload. Besides that I get to compare the factory to my reloads for accuracy. I buy mostly Federal ammo and to be honest it's pretty difficult to improve the performance of the Federal Premium line.
I've done the math on my reloading and for the most part it's still under factory, but not by much! Depending on the bullet used, a $1 bullet with the rest of the components are still under factory if you choose a like factory bullet combination. Say a Barnes loaded factory ammo vs a reloaded Barnes combo. My most expensive bullets are ~$1 a piece and even with that all copper lathe turned bulldozers, a reloaded round still falls under price of cheaper made cup and core.
The price and availability of primers are what's really ridiculous with this all.
 

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