I said I would post picture of how those 140 grain Berger VLD Hunting bullets perform on my wife Mule Deer hunt. These picture show that those Berger work!. My wife shot a nice Buck this morning at 241 yards with my 264 Winchester magnum. The load was: Retumbo Winchester Brass Federal 215M COAL 3.300 71.5 grains Velocity 3,215 fps group .185 in both picture you can see the damage, the buck drop just like in those Greybull precision videos. the top picture show the entrance hole and bottom picture show the heart(what left) and lungs.