long range varmit gun

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by parkerbender, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. parkerbender

    parkerbender Member

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    i have recently had the hankering for a seriously long range coyote and paper gun, thinking over 500 yards. what is the best very long range caliber in your opinion if youre not super worried about knockdown power, just accuracy at very long ranges? i dont know much about ballistics but from what i've found is .257 weatherby a good realllly long range cartridge? thanks

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  2. Guest

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    My vote would go to the 243Ai with a barrel of at least 26" and a 1-8 twist , you'll be able to shoot the 105gr A-max , 107gr MK and the heavy Berger VLD's which shoot pretty flat out to 1K and the recoil isin't so bad you need a muzzel brake and it won't beat you to death.
    You can get Lapua brass for the 243 and it doesen't burn to much powder. Their is also a huge supply of good bullets for the .243 calibers

    BUT

    a 180gr 7mm Berger VLD with a BC of .698 launched at near 3000fps would be a super flat shooter also , but then you looking at higher recoil and more powder
     
  3. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> if youre not super worried about knockdown power, just accuracy at very long ranges? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I'm thinking 6BR.

    VH
     
  4. Bill D.

    Bill D. Active Member

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    Right on Varmint Hunter, my next project rifle is a 6BR. Hope to get it done by next spring. Sould fit the criteria set out by Parkerbender. With great barrel life, and a joy to shoot.

    Bill
     
  5. parkerbender

    parkerbender Member

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    thanks! any other ideas, big gun show this weekend, think it's gonna happen there
     
  6. dbhostler

    dbhostler Well-Known Member

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    I know there are many opinions and many will work from a 6mm to a big .30, but right now I am on a 7 Ultra kick. If I'm going to shoot accross the valley I live in, I want something very fast and flat. The Ultra fits that bill just fine. If I'm shooting at a standing object, paper or steel and want to see the hit, I use a .244 Ackley.
    db
     
  7. DMCI

    DMCI Well-Known Member

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    A quote from another site leads me to believe there is hope yet for 7mm WSM:

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>I shoot a 7mm Mag for lt gun Benchrest and 30-338 Lapua Shortened for my heavy gun. For the light gun i use 176gr Cauterucio bluets in RWS cases and 65gr of VV-170 powder with RWS 5333 primers. My es is down around 8FPS and velocities are at 2950 fps. Tim Lambert stopped in on his way to Minnesota and told me in his 7mm WSM he used 180gr Bergers over RL22 and his velocity was 3050 FPS. HIs es was low because his 1 mile group measured 3.5" wide by 11" vertical for 5 shots.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>D. [​IMG]

    PS: I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but doesn't that group make the 7mm WSM a theoretical 1760 yard tactical rifle? [​IMG]

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    Win LRM Primer
    Berger 180 VLD
    Win Cases
    VV N165 Powder

    61.0 2737

    61.5 2757(6)

    62.0 2780

    62.5 2800

    63.5 2858(10)

    64.0 2890(15)

    75.3*F
    29.75 in Hg
    49.7 RH

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  8. Guest

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    You mentioned 500 yards. Last summer I killed a woodchuck at 675 yards with my 22 CHeetah MK 1. It pushes a 52gr bullet at 4280 FPS. You could ask any of the 3 guys from Williamsport, that were with me, how it works. It shoots very flat and is deadly accurate. I would say that 700 yards is about maximum for it. Out to 400 yards, its almost automatic. As an exaample, at 100 and 200 yards I don't adjust elevation at all and at 300 yards I adjust 1" up on the target knob. Thats pretty flat shooting. On a good day, when I am not shaking to bad, it posts 5 shot groups of 3/4" at 300 yards.

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    This is my CHeetah with a Swarovski 6 to 24 X 50 Swarovski scope.

    my 2 cents,

    Don