I wanted to share my recent experience with the Berger 230 Hybrids for anyone out there looking into loading them. From a lot of what I read, most people were not loading these bullets to fit a standard length magazine, although there were a few out there who had done it. Berger actually recommends the 230 OTM's if you are going to load them to fit the magazine, but I figured I would give it a shot. In my circumstance, I decided to start at 3.60 COAL in my 300 RUM just to see if I could find a load that would shoot at that length before extending it out longer. I knew I could always add a Wyatt's box if I needed to go longer, but I don't like spending the money unless it is necessary. I ran a ladder starting at 89.5 grains of Retumbo and ran it up to 94 grains, where I finally got a heavier bolt lift, but still no extractor marks. There were a couple very noticeable nodes, but what really struck me was how consistent the ES was! I ended up settling on 90 grains of Retumbo at 2,900 fps, which grouped at exactly 1" at 300 yards, or .33 MOA. Needless to say, I am extremely happy with those results! I know if I extended the length or loaded these closer to the max, I could push them over 3,000 fps, but I cannot argue with .33 MOA, especially considering this is a non-custom rifle that has less than $1,000 into it. Anyway, just wanted to share this for those considering loading these to magazine length.