Freedom....

Caveman0101

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I too was in WY last weekend, as my kids are down south for a few weeks, my wife and I decided to do some scouting. We currently live in the Vail, CO area and this place is just being Californicated at a dizzying speed. Every two years these a'holes vote to raise taxes and they just keep passing more and more socialist B.S. I fear all of us freedom-loving conservative types will have to pick one place to congregate and draw a line. I feel that place will be Wyoming maybe the Dakotas, Nebraska, and a few other places. My wife is from Idaho and we fear it will be overrun in just a few more years. All the other western states are well on their way also. God help us all.
 

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I too was in WY last weekend, as my kids are down south for a few weeks, my wife and I decided to do some scouting. We currently live in the Vail, CO area and this place is just being Californicated at a dizzying speed. Every two years these a'holes vote to raise taxes and they just keep passing more and more socialist B.S. I fear all of us freedom-loving conservative types will have to pick one place to congregate and draw a line. I feel that place will be Wyoming maybe the Dakotas, Nebraska, and a few other places. My wife is from Idaho and we fear it will be overrun in just a few more years. All the other western states are well on their way also. God help us all.
Yup, the Libs have fouled their own nests as a result of their own destructive policies and the sycophants they elect. Then, they go on to wreak havoc somewhere else. Ever notice how they always pick some of the most beautiful states and Natural resources to poison?

Look at the once beautiful cities they’ve left in ruin along their paths. Beautiful architecture and monuments emblematic of rich history being destroyed.

The “Time-Out” generation has come of age guys, and now everybody who got a trophy gets to tear down a statue. They are sitting on town councils, writing legislation and getting elected to high office. God hep us.
 
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I have a buddy that says if Biden is elected, he's moving to WY. I asked why ? He said because Michigan is a liberal state and he wants out. I thought Biden would be president of the entire US not just Michigan. Sure I understand republicans states exist but IF Joe is our new president, I'm guessing we'll probably have a brand new Senate as well shortly down the road. Then I'm not sure it really matters what state he moves too. Freedom IMO is what you make of it in this country. It's there for the taking and always will be. I've been hearing this dem/republican argument my whole life and our country has still been one that practices freedom for it's citizens. Hasn't changed one bit. I think every state has a piece of heaven of you look hard enough. I say find it and use it and this country will always be the same America we all love, despite who wears the President hat.
 

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I have a buddy that says if Biden is elected, he's moving to WY. I asked why ? He said because Michigan is a liberal state and he wants out. I thought Biden would be president of the entire US not just Michigan. Sure I understand republicans states exist but IF Joe is our new president, I'm guessing we'll probably have a brand new Senate as well shortly down the road. Then I'm not sure it really matters what state he moves too. Freedom IMO is what you make of it in this country. It's there for the taking and always will be. I've been hearing this dem/republican argument my whole life and our country has still been one that practices freedom for it's citizens. Hasn't changed one bit. I think every state has a piece of heaven of you look hard enough. I say find it and use it and this country will always be the same America we all love, despite who wears the President hat.
I pray Biden never becomes president because it will change this country but I am hopeful that whoever becomes president whatever problems we have in the future we will still be the country that I was born into and grew up with
 

Caveman0101

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I have a buddy that says if Biden is elected, he's moving to WY. I asked why ? He said because Michigan is a liberal state and he wants out. I thought Biden would be president of the entire US not just Michigan. Sure I understand republicans states exist but IF Joe is our new president, I'm guessing we'll probably have a brand new Senate as well shortly down the road. Then I'm not sure it really matters what state he moves too. Freedom IMO is what you make of it in this country. It's there for the taking and always will be. I've been hearing this dem/republican argument my whole life and our country has still been one that practices freedom for it's citizens. Hasn't changed one bit. I think every state has a piece of heaven of you look hard enough. I say find it and use it and this country will always be the same America we all love, despite who wears the President hat.
My dear sir, I don't know what rock you've been under but never before in our history has outright socialism and communism been openly espoused as it is today. Here in CO, we have red flag laws, which basically means for any reason a person can simply accuse a gun owner of being a threat to themselves or anyone, and the authorities can come in and seize your firearms. No due process just a judge's signature on a piece of paper and your second amendment rights are gone. We are tax slaves living on a tax plantation, the more of our money the gov. takes the less free you are. Money is freedom, it is control. Again here in CO they are taking our tax money and giving it to illegal aliens in a new state Covid relief bill. The state is doing this because the illegals were not eligible to get the Fed money as the rest of us did. But to your point yes he would be the president of all states and everyone's taxes will go up, however, there are a few places left that are not governing themselves into oblivion. If what you say is true then why would people be fleeing California by the millions if everywhere were the same? Wake up man, our freedoms are under attack on an hourly basis.
 

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My dear sir, I don't know what rock you've been under but never before in our history has outright socialism and communism been openly espoused as it is today. Here in CO, we have red flag laws, which basically means for any reason a person can simply accuse a gun owner of being a threat to themselves or anyone, and the authorities can come in and seize your firearms. No due process just a judge's signature on a piece of paper and your second amendment rights are gone. We are tax slaves living on a tax plantation, the more of our money the gov. takes the less free you are. Money is freedom, it is control. Again here in CO they are taking our tax money and giving it to illegal aliens in a new state Covid relief bill. The state is doing this because the illegals were not eligible to get the Fed money as the rest of us did. But to your point yes he would be the president of all states and everyone's taxes will go up, however, there are a few places left that are not governing themselves into oblivion. If what you say is true then why would people be fleeing California by the millions if everywhere were the same? Wake up man, our freedoms are under attack on an hourly basis.
There are many members on these forums from CO, NY, ILL and other states with sanctuary cities for illegals. All of them have found great in state places to enjoy what they love to do without being treaded on. It's not a rock that I've been under so much as the choice I make to find my own sunshine and peaceful lifestyle without letting what you just spelled out is happening in this country. I'm optimistic. I'm not a gloom and doom person. If I was, I guess my feelings would be quite the same. I still believe we will survive this attack on our rights and that these "peaceful" protests will end up with more arrests and lockups than continued destruction in our near future. I see exactly what you see but I don't look at it as it the " Here to stay" movement. I still have my second amendment rights. They haven't changed. I've been hearing this for 50 years how my second amendment rights will be taken from me. In fact more people today can carry concealed pistols easier than ever before. Relax, see the glass as half full not half empty. Take a trip to half dozen other countries and when you return, let me know if you'd want to live in any of them today vs this country. We go thru this all the time. Kinda like the stock market. Up and down.
 

VLD Pilot

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My dear sir, I don't know what rock you've been under but never before in our history has outright socialism and communism been openly espoused as it is today. Here in CO, we have red flag laws, which basically means for any reason a person can simply accuse a gun owner of being a threat to themselves or anyone, and the authorities can come in and seize your firearms. No due process just a judge's signature on a piece of paper and your second amendment rights are gone. We are tax slaves living on a tax plantation, the more of our money the gov. takes the less free you are. Money is freedom, it is control. Again here in CO they are taking our tax money and giving it to illegal aliens in a new state Covid relief bill. The state is doing this because the illegals were not eligible to get the Fed money as the rest of us did. But to your point yes he would be the president of all states and everyone's taxes will go up, however, there are a few places left that are not governing themselves into oblivion. If what you say is true then why would people be fleeing California by the millions if everywhere were the same? Wake up man, our freedoms are under attack on an hourly basis.
I get it tho. We're definitely moving further away from the values that our republic was built on. That said, again, I'm staying positive that we will prevail and this country will remain the greatest in the world
 

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