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Coastal blacktail gets Hammered

RockyMtnMT

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Last Sunday while at the range working on some rifles I received a text from a customer excited about the 3x4 blacktail buck that he took using his 8mm mag and 221g Hammer Hunters. He did not give me much detail other than he shot him at 250y running away and that the buck was cresting a hill on the shot and he just slid 60y down the other side.

Today I was able to have a phone conversation with him and the story is pretty good. The terminal ballistics of the Hammer are everything that we have been researching and working toward. Originally he thought that he had hit the buck in the flank and the bullet lodged in the far shoulder. It turns out that the hole in the flank was an exit from one of the petals coming off the bullet. He had actually hit him Texas style about 3" off the bung hole. Bullet traveled the length of the deer and lodged in the far shoulder. He told me that the force from the expansion of the bullet was so strong that it split the gut 10" and the guts were out of the deer. That the lungs were completely devastated. He thought when he got to the deer that he had hit him low and was lucky to have gotten him since the guts were out of the body. I wonder if a petal may have split the belly open. Hard to believe it split from impact pressure. Despite the heavy devastation he had very little meat damage in the rear quarter that was hit. To me this is the best part, as we don't always hit the best spots in a hunting situation, and losing less meat is a great thing.

Recovered bullet weighed 155g for 70% weight retention with a perfect flat frontal area that measured .3815" from an original .323". This bullet performed exactly like testing and could not have been better.

In the end hitting a running deer at 250y is a heck of a shot and bullet performance was fantastic. Here are the pics that he sent me.

It is a very nice buck too. Congratulations to Manuel.

Steve

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That's a great way to start the deer season. Glad he recovered the bullet.

How do you think the .308 101 grain Blackout bullets you sold me would do in a .308 at full throttle? What do you think the muzzle velocity would be?
 
That's a great way to start the deer season. Glad he recovered the bullet.

How do you think the .308 101 grain Blackout bullets you sold me would do in a .308 at full throttle? What do you think the muzzle velocity would be?

I would say you would be able to get about 3300fps on top load. I think they would be a great short range deer bullet with very low recoil.

I think you should give them a go and be the 1st to shoot a deer at high vel with them. In about a month we may give them a deer test on a b tag.

Have you shot them in anything yet?

Steve
 
I would say you would be able to get about 3300fps on top load. I think they would be a great short range deer bullet with very low recoil.

I think you should give them a go and be the 1st to shoot a deer at high vel with them. In about a month we may give them a deer test on a b tag.

Have you shot them in anything yet?

Steve

I fired four at 100 yards from the Blackout. I used 21.7 grains of H110 sparked by CCI450 Magnum primer in Lapua brass. The velocity averaged 2,547 making a group of 1 13/16". After that I decided to stick with the 220 grain Out Law Bullets and go strictly sub-sonic in this 16.2" barrel.

I think I could pick up close to 1,000 feet per second with the .308 and its 18" barrel. The Kimber 84 is definitely lighter than the Ruger American.

I can't get to the range till Wednesday. I am very interested in what it will do.
 
I fired four at 100 yards from the Blackout. I used 21.7 grains of H110 sparked by CCI450 Magnum primer in Lapua brass. The velocity averaged 2,547 making a group of 1 13/16". After that I decided to stick with the 220 grain Out Law Bullets and go strictly sub-sonic in this 16.2" barrel.

I think I could pick up close to 1,000 feet per second with the .308 and its 18" barrel. The Kimber 84 is definitely lighter than the Ruger American.

I can't get to the range till Wednesday. I am very interested in what it will do.


Got away for an hour and fired some. I wanted to get a five shot group with a random load of 54.0 grains of H335, a CCIBR-2, Lapua brass, and your 101 grain bullet. The five shot group measured 1 1/8" while shots number 3, 4, & 5 measured 7/16". Velocity averaged 3,386 feet per second. Maybe on Thursday I can sight it in for Saturday.
 
Speaking of .358 cal hammers, have you gotten to testing the 220 or cut a bullet for a 12 twist yet Steve? Would love to hear an update :)

We have not forgot. Just been a bit buried. I wish I had an update as well. Another week or so and we should have some time to give them a go. We have designed them just need to run them through the ringer to be sure all is well with them.

Steve
 
I only caught one last year in an elk frontal shot. I think going end to end in the deer and having to over come the paunch 1st is the reason it stopped. Plus it hit at pretty high velocity, which causes a bullet to slow down faster on impact.

Still pretty amazing that he stopped it. Great data for us. Perfectly mirrored our testing data.

Very happy.


Steve
 
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