Chronograph comparison

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I don't know if anyone is interested in this but…

I've had a Chrony Beta Master for many years and have used it to collect a large amount of data on my reloads, and factory loads, with several rimfire and centerfire rifles/cartridges. A. Lot. Of. Data.

Wondering about accuracy/repeatability of this unit, I always wished I could put two chronographs in-line and see how consistent the data was but never had another unit or opportunity.

Now I've joined the 21st​ century and bought the Garmin unit.

So I headed to the range and set up the old and the new. Chrony Beta Master about 7ft from the bench and the Garmin on the bench.

Shooting 80 total shots in 270Win, 7mm-08, and 300WSM I compared the velocity data obtained by both chrono's. All comparisons were per caliber and lot#(my reloads) of course.

The Garmin recorded velocities an average of 74fps slower than the Chrony.

The Garmin velocities had a 43% lower standard deviation compared to the Chrony.

The Garmin velocities had a 47% lower ES-extreme spread compared to the Chrony.

I'd call those significant differences.

At least I'll feel a little better about the quality/consistency of my reloads now.

I'm guessing you couldn't put 2 Garmin units side-by-side because the doppler radar would cross-talk between the two. But still, it would be interesting to see the correlation unit-to-unit.
 
I don't know if anyone is interested in this but…

I've had a Chrony Beta Master for many years and have used it to collect a large amount of data on my reloads, and factory loads, with several rimfire and centerfire rifles/cartridges. A. Lot. Of. Data.

Wondering about accuracy/repeatability of this unit, I always wished I could put two chronographs in-line and see how consistent the data was but never had another unit or opportunity.

Now I've joined the 21st​ century and bought the Garmin unit.

So I headed to the range and set up the old and the new. Chrony Beta Master about 7ft from the bench and the Garmin on the bench.

Shooting 80 total shots in 270Win, 7mm-08, and 300WSM I compared the velocity data obtained by both chrono's. All comparisons were per caliber and lot#(my reloads) of course.

The Garmin recorded velocities an average of 74fps slower than the Chrony.

The Garmin velocities had a 43% lower standard deviation compared to the Chrony.

The Garmin velocities had a 47% lower ES-extreme spread compared to the Chrony.

I'd call those significant differences.

At least I'll feel a little better about the quality/consistency of my reloads now.

I'm guessing you couldn't put 2 Garmin units side-by-side because the doppler radar would cross-talk between the two. But still, it would be interesting to see the correlation unit-to-unit.
There are tests in YouTube with multiple units.

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People have done all sorts of comparisons the last year. I pretty sure multiple radars don't matter much. For PRS there's an integrity check for bullet speeds. Everybody has their garmins out.




 
One issue any sky screen based chronograph has is correct cell spacing - It doesn't take much for it to impact velocities, especially those that fold out. If your chrony is designed to have 12" spacing but due to rust in the hinge or wear on the skyscreen pole holes the actual spacing is 11.82" it will have a 45 fps error on a true MV of 3000. And if the issue is pole hole wear, it will be inconsistent and increase SDs.
 
One issue any sky screen based chronograph has is correct cell spacing - It doesn't take much for it to impact velocities, especially those that fold out. If your chrony is designed to have 12" spacing but due to rust in the hinge or wear on the skyscreen pole holes the actual spacing is 11.82" it will have a 45 fps error on a true MV of 3000. And if the issue is pole hole wear, it will be inconsistent and increase SDs.
I cannot remember his old and new screen name, but there is an LRH member from AK that did it a few years ago.
 
i have found that my old chrony was around 25-30 fps faster then my LX. Absolutely love my LX. Been flawlessly since I bought it almost a year ago
 
I have had my Garmin since it has come out, my major issue is the ease of setup. I used to have an old Caldwell, " broke during a move" it sometimes took about 30 minutes to an hour. It is so nice to turn it on and setup in a few minutes or less and start shooting. The small size is another big plus for me.
 
Love the setup on the Garmin.
Because of my range's operation, with my Chrony:
  1. Arrive at range before shooting time and move stuff to bench, except no guns
  2. Set up Chrony and target approximately aligned with shooting position
  3. Range goes hot
  4. Move gun to bench and rests
  5. Wait for called break, all wasted time
  6. Now align Chrony to gun and target without touching gun or bench

PITA
 
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