Beyond Belief One and Two?

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by ovastafford, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. ovastafford

    ovastafford Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,042
    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    I just bought the first beyond belief yesterday at Cabelas and its an awesome video. Really good video that emphasizes practice and make sure you can make the shot before you try it on game. I had already seen beyond belief 2 and its good too but my question is whats the deal? In the first video there is John Burns and a whole different staff other than John Porter compared to beyond belief 2.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2010
  2. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    175
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2008
    I don't know any details or reasons why. Suffice it to say John Burns and The Best of the West parted company a while back. You can still get John Burns hunting videos at his Greybull Precision website. Cost of his Precision Hunter Journal DVD is just the shipping/handling fee.
     
  3. Chas1

    Chas1 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,556
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Why did John Burns and The Best of the West part company?
     
  4. sniperjwt

    sniperjwt Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    827
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    I asked that very same question to a member of The Best of the West last year at the Eastern Outdoor Sportsmans Show and his reply was that John only wanted to make a handful of guns a year and everybody else wanted to make 100+. More guns =more money. So i said well didnt you lose one of your most knowledgeable long range hunters? He said no ---- ------- tought him everthing he knows. ( i left it blank because i dont recall the name he said.) I was like ok and walked on . Now i dont know if there is anything to it or not this is just what i was told.
     
  5. Chas1

    Chas1 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,556
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Thanks for responding. Sounds like maybe it was over the number of guns to be made and there's probably 2 sides to the story. Just curious.
     
  6. sniperjwt

    sniperjwt Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    827
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    yea im not sure that was it because he is now with another company that builds long range shooting "systems" as they call it so if he did not want to build lots of guns then why go somewhere and do the same thing??????? Dont guess it really matters however The Best of the West has not been the same without him. Not nearly as good. They spend too much time pushing their scopes and not enough time hunting and giving tips. :D
     
  7. Kalashnikov

    Kalashnikov Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    155
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2006
  8. Chas1

    Chas1 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,556
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Thanks for the link...loooks like it's going to be a long read.
     
  9. sdkidaho

    sdkidaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    313
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Wow - now that was a long read. Good information in there and of course the two opposing sides did nothing in regards to helping this newbie :D Too much information.
     
  10. Chas1

    Chas1 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,556
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    sdkidhao, what kind of help are you looking for? Maybe I can help. Let me know.