Berger bullets

tayhot

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So as I have posted in some of my other threads, you could tell I am a Barnes TTSX fan. However, I did want to try the Bergers in 300 RUM. I loaded some 185's up with 94 gr of Retumbo and seated the bullets @ 3.600" like the rest of my loads. I shot 2 groups of 5 shots and got 4" groups. Obviously a huge problem. I want to give them a fair chance so should I seat them taller? My OAL is 3.808 with them in my OAL gauge. Would 3.700" make that much difference?
 

phorwath

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I doubt it. Only way to know is to experiment with powder, charge weight, seating depth, but most significantly - bullets. Your rifle may not like the Bergers. Only way to know is fuss with them for a while. I personally don't put too much time into a bullet that shoots 4" groups at 100 yds if my rifle has already proven itself capable of less than 1" groups with other bullets. I lick my wounds and move on to a different bullet.

You might try seating a few out into the lands and see if that helps reduce group size. I can't tell from your post if you've tried that yet, even if your mag box won't allow it, by loading them single shot style. That's how I shoot the VLDs in 3 different rifles with very good accuracy.
 

Eaglet

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You might try seating a few out into the lands and see if that helps reduce group size. I can't tell from your post if you've tried that yet, even if your mag box won't allow it, by loading them single shot style. That's how I shoot the VLDs in 3 different rifles with very good accuracy.
Amen to that! I shoot two different rifles like that also.
 

bigngreen

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We loaded two rifles this year that have never or rarely went under MOA and this year with 210 Bergers they both went around 1/2 MOA consistently, we used to load Barnes in everything, no more!
My 270 WSM was the most particular .015 of the lands is staying under 1/2 MOA, if I go up or down .005 it blows out to 1.5in. It has never seen Barnes bullets so, as you are doing in the interest of fairness, I have two loads of 110gr TTSX's under some R17 to try out tomorrow. They are intented for coyote loads.
Good luck.:D
 

skandlus

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for the 270wsm we just used a can of rl17 @ 60gr and 140vlds... havent chrono'd yet, but as far as groups, it shoots lights out!
 

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