# Beating the dead " i dont understand MILS" horse!!!

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by Givilanczz, Feb 1, 2013.

1. ### GivilanczzMember

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Let me start by saying, i have searched places for this answer, i find a graat deal on range estimation but thats not my question. Ok so I have been reading a great deal on Mil/Mil scopes, I think I want to adopt one but I'm having a freaking hard time grasping ONE aspect of mils. Now I understand how to range with mils, I understand with mil/mil scopes if you see a bullet impact you correct what you saw on the scope in mils. What I'm completely stuck on is. What if I don't see the impact, so I track over to my 300 y target and see its 3 inches low. Well with my MOA scope I dial up 1 moa. But how do I convert those inches into mils? Or better yet .1 mils?

I want to grasp this. I think mils have great potential and moa/moa scopes aren't exactly cheap, or in an abundant amount. Maybe I'm just dense or not thinking in the right system, but right now I need help.

2. ### Outlaw6.0Well-Known Member

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You're over complicating the situation. When you adopt a Milliradian setup, STOP thinking MOA. Both are angular units of measurement, by trying to convert one to the other & back again in not necessary (unless running one of the Mil reticled Moa turret scopes).

One mil is 3.6" @ 100 yards. Most scope are 1/10mil adjustments which is .36" @ 100yds & equals .72" @ 200 & 1.08" @ 300 etc. Get me now? You dial up .3mil & you're zeroed.

This is a pretty common issue with guys new to Mils, it isn't nearly as difficult as it seems. Fiddle around with it some & you'll be surprised at how easy it can be.

t

3. ### DocBWell-Known Member

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Hey G,

I hope this helps....

It will help if you can look at a ruler that has inches on one edge and centimeters/millimeters on the other for a visual.. but if you don't:

At 100 yards 1 mil = 3.643" roughly 3.438 moa (there abouts).. 1 mil = 1 centimeter @ 100 meters. (1 moa = 1.047" @ 100 yds, roughly 0.3mils... 0.1mil = approx 0.36")..

so your correction in mils would be approx .3mils ... 1 moa @ 300 yds would equal .3 mils @ 300 yds.

I think I got it right! lol

Doc

4. ### SpudsWell-Known Member

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Try NSSF web site. Select videos on the bottom left of the shooting page and then featured videos. Several good videos on how to use milliradians and MOA. You may have to click on load more videos a couple times to get all the videos to show on the screen.

5. ### Joe KingWell-Known Member

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Thats USMC mills, Army is 3.52" @100yrds, or something really close to that. Just wanted to make sure your aware of it because they make scopes in both so you need to make sure which one your getting. It would really really suck to be using USMC mills and have an Army mill scope

6. ### Bullet bumperWell-Known Member

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Mils work with metric measurements better .

7. ### DocBWell-Known Member

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HOORAH! AIRBORNE!! LMAO!!!

Doc

8. ### JackinSDWell-Known Member

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Yeah, that 1.25 (approximate) at 1000 yards would really make it suck.

9. ### BrozWell-Known Member

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Thank you guys for re-insuring me that I am doing the right thing using MOA.

Jeff

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t

11. ### BrozWell-Known Member

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I don't know. But if I was told where to find it using mils I would need a calculator and a bottle of aspirin to find it.lightbulb

Jeff

12. ### Outlaw6.0Well-Known Member

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It's not that bad, I promise! If I can figure it out, anybody can

t

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14. ### CogburnRWell-Known Member

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The Army uses a round dot and the USMC uses an oval dot.