Angle Compensating Range finders?

[silvertip-co]

The most accurate method for determining your hold on target is to utilize Ballistic targeting Software such as the one that Night Force sells. This is because the software takes into account the BC of the bullet, the bullet's weight, the bullets unique velocity, your zero distance, along with current temperature, barometric station pressure and humidity. With this data, the software will calculate the bullets unique deceleration curve, which you can then take a step further and validate the bullets trajectory. This may sound like a lot of stuff... However it is really very simple and will deliver a very accurate hold.

I dont have room in my backpack for a pc and generator. How does that thing work? Is it on a blueberry or something similar?

 

[gripitright]

A REVELATION…
Note: IMHO, This information will lead you to a limited-time opportunity!

I was searching a few forums, reading reviews about laser range-finders, good ones like Swarovski, Leica, Nikon, Bushnell and some bad ones like Leupold RX and ATN (yuk!) . I also read comments from customer ratings of specific products at online stores! Let's get started …

First, the News!
U.S. Army Orders Bushnell Laser Rangefinders
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/us-army-orders-bushnell-laser-rangefinders/

Bushnell Elite 1500 ARC Receives Golden Bullseye Award From NRA Publications
http://www.bushnell.com/arc/GoldenBullseyeAward08.pdf

Second, verify claims!

Angle Compensating Range finders work out to a point, however they are merely utilizing the "Rifleman" method of determining the "Base" of the triangle. When utilizing an angle compensating range finder, there can be as much as an eight MOA error when shooting at longer distances and while holding on steeper angles.

The Rifleman method is the Least accurate of the three methods used.
The most accurate method for determining your hold on target is to utilize Ballistic targeting Software such as the one that Night Force sells. This is because the software takes into account the BC of the bullet, the bullet's weight, the bullets unique velocity, your zero distance, along with current temperature, barometric station pressure and humidity. With this data, the software will calculate the bullets unique deceleration curve, which you can then take a step further and validate the bullets trajectory. This may sound like a lot of stuff... However it is really very simple and will deliver a very accurate hold.

Well, times must be a changin' for the Bushnell Elite 1500 with ARC

I found the Bushnell Elite 1500 with Angle Range Compensation (ARC) uses Ballistic data to acquire the firing solution!
Read for more… http://www.bushnell.com/arc/1500warc_2.html

6MMBR Review – RangeFinder FAQ and Field Tests of Top Units Rated to 1200-1500 Yards - Laser RangeFinders

Chuck Hawk's Guns and Shooting Online Review – Bushnell Elite 1500 Rangefinder
http://www.chuckhawks.com/bushnell_elite_1500_rf.htm

Third, shop around and learn!
Bushnell 7x26mm Elite 1500 Laser Rangerfinders:
FOUR MODELS:
Two models have ARC (Model 205101 and 205104). Two models DO NOT have ARC (Model 205100 and 205103).
Availability and prices vary, shown below:

Without ARC: (Bad)
(Listed in order of Priciest to Cheapest)

Cabela's – $399.99 (Model 205101) … NO ARC! … Black
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?cmView=full&type=pod&id=0029689

Midway – $399.99 (Model 205100) … NO ARC! … Black
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=569694

CheaperThanDirt.com – $367.76 (Model 205100) … NO ARC! … Black
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/15139-34.html

With ARC: (Good)
(Listed in order of Priciest to Cheapest)

Cabela's – $499.99 (Model 205101) … ARC … Camo (Mossy Oak New Break-Up)
Cabela's – $499.99 (Model 205104) … ARC … Camo (Realtree AP HD)
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp;jsessionid=AXZEOXAYJYC3HLAQBBJCCN3MCAEFGIWE?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=&id=0029689712560a&navCount=4&podId=0029689712560&parentId=cat601606&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601606&hasJS=true&_requestid=8770

Midway – $499.99 (Model 205104) … ARC … Camo (Realtree AP HD)
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=251823

OpticsPlanet.com – $499.00 (Model 205104) … ARC … Camo (Realtree AP HD) - Free UPS
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-1500-arc-realtree-ap-rangefinder.html

CheaperThanDirt.com – $447.20 (Model 205104) … ARC … Camo (Realtree AP HD)
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/53425-34.html

eRiflescopes.com – $444.99 (Model 205101) … ARC … Camo (Mossy Oak New Break-Up)
Bushnell Elite 1500 ARC Camo Laser Rangefinder - Rangefinders at eRifle Scopes

OpticsPlanet.com – $389.95 (Model 205101) … ARC … Camo (Mossy Oak New Break-Up)
- Free UPS
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-1500-arc-mossy-oak-laser-rangefinder-205101.html
(Shouldn't this one be up there (in price) with the other one, it's just a different camo color! Ah Ha!)

Notice the prices!
I ordered a Bushnell Elite 1500 with ARC (model 205101) for $389.95 (free shipping) from OpticsPlanet.com! AND Bushnell will give me a $130 Waterproof Jacket for the UPC, the sales receipt and $10 with a coupon here:
Bushnell Telescopes, Spotting scopes, Binoculars, Rangefinders Rebates & Specials

Caution: Avoid the Bushnell PinSeeker With Slope Compensation because that uses the ballistics of a golf ball not a bullet!

Fourth, eliminate other choices!

The rangefinder's ARC reading works with the Mildot Master (MDM) for converting the bullet drop into my scope's knob adjustments or hold-under (mil/mil). Right!? - thankyou

Now I don't need a rifle-mounted ACI http://www.snipertools.com/aci.htm

Now I don't need a rifle-mounted ASLI http://www.horusvision.com/asli.php

P.S. Hi, Jon A and Scott

Grip

Bear the "Right Arm of Freedom" with DS Arms' 21st Century Fusil Automatique Legere!

 

[grit]

I've been using the Bushnell Elite 1500 with ARC for a couple years. I'll give you some info on it. I went with it because it was the only model with arc having decent optics and field of view. The leupold was like peering through a keyhole (I waited ages for them to come out).

First, as stated it has a nice field of view. It's also user friendly. It has bow and rifle mode. In bow mode it corrects the line of sight yardage for you. (See article, Long range bowhunting). In rifle mode it measures slope in degrees and has several ballistic models to choose from to offer bullet drop solutions. I only use the displayed angle. I carry a chart with corrections for angle shooting. I also carry a pda.

The shortcoming is the ranging ability. It is a solid performer to 600 yards or so. Frankly, I can guess in my angles close enough at that range. Furthest readings I have gotten are mid 1200. In fact I passed a shot last year because I couldn't read off anything within 100 yards of my deer (Big tree at 1059 was about 100 yards past). If you replace the battery every time out, it will range to eight hundred off a big tree or something similar with some consistency. If you let the battery get a bit run down (not low) you will chuck it off a cliff because it won't read a house at 500.

Soo, I now use the Bushnell for bowhunting. I bought a Swaro for rifle hunting (this thing will range waaaay beyond the Bushnell), and some aci's. I wish Swaro would put one in thiers. Then I'd have to swear and spend more money.

 

[jwp475]

Seems to me it works just like Ward said..

 

[7mmRHB]

Grit , it sounds like you got a bad 1500 ARC !! Send it back and get a new one !! There are a small percentage of these units that won't range like they should but so far Bushnell has replaced them no questions asked.

My own Elite 1500 ARC will easily read to 1500 yds on brush or trees or rocks or whatever is around the animal I'm ranging !! My friends who have them like them as well. One of my friends had to replace his unit because of the same problem you found in yours. The new one work great !!The degree of angle feature is a great tool for your charts or PDA as you said. At half the price of a Swaro and with the ARC feature it's a good unit!! -----RHB

 

[grit]

Thanks 7mm. That's valuable info!