I went to the range today to see how it liked the 168 vld's. I started at magazine length which put me .069 off the lands and went back in .04 increments to around .150. My test load was 69grains of retumbo with rem 9.5 primers and winchester casings. Out of the loads it liked magazine depth the best. I shot two groups, one measured just over 1" and the other measured .7". The other two depths I tried werent even close. Groups were anywhere from 2"-4." I guess now Ill bump up the powder charge and see what it likes best. What do you guys think I should try next? Any input appreciated.