I don't understand how a bullet could break a bone in the back leg, go through the chest and exit thru the opposite back leg?
Magic bullet like the one that got Kennedy?Well, I once had one of our hunters tell us the deer he shot was behind a tree and he had to bend the bullet around it to make the shot. Really. So I guess if you have the right juju it can be done.
Ok, whatever, another Olympic winner, the internet is full of those...Warbird2006...."please read what I stated" I was clear if the ELDM is moving at moderate velocities 2600-2700+ fps it is capable of point blank range kills and out to distances most can't fathom. Please don't be the guy who says hey you didn't listen to the OP - I most certainly did. btw my 17 yr old daughter would take offense to your prima donna statement of .... "its his niece your comment is irrelevant" since she and her girlfriends are totally capable of baking a cake or crushing a bull from 300 or 1200 yards at will. In closing the ELDM is capable of killing up to Elk size game from point blank 100 yards out to 1100 AS LONG AS it is not moving too fast out of the Muzzle. example 2600- 2700 fps is all that bullet needs even for "NIECES" < my daughter wanted me to add that part lol
warbird2006 > I gave accurate info based on experience in the scope of the OP's question and you revert to name calling? good lord man grow up.Ok, whatever, another Olympic winner, the internet is full of those...
No age mentioned above, but we've taught m/f 10-12 y/o's to shoot fast twist 223's and 243's to 600yds. They can be quite capable!It's his niece...be realistic. 1% of hunters would be able to make a kill on 840 yards. So your comment is completely irrelevant.
I have always found it curious that the same people who will praise the deadly effectiveness of their said "magnum"(choose your caliber) at well beyond 1,000+yds, refuse to accept that same caliber/bullet hitting the same game animal 200, 300 or 400yds shorter and with similar or more velocity, but claim it will not work. (??)I guess all I can say about the 7mm 08 with the right bullet and bullet weight - used in the right manner it can kill HUMANELY a lot further then given credit. I proved that to myself several times including in my post titled 162 ELDM performance in a separate thread a few days ago.
But don't take my word for it - go out and make some kills before saying it's not worthy. Also if you don't want to take the time to do your own killing. Read Nathan Fosters' book "the practical guide to long range cartridges" Nathan has done extensive in the field research and covers numerous calibers in that book including the 7mm08. I am also willing to argue that his kill per caliber is much higher than most any of us on the web and should be regarding as a good base line of knowledge.
Once I understood what his practical application revealed it was apparent to me that the 7mm08 with the right bullet was very much under rated and if you can set your ego aside you might learn something and find out you do not need a 28 Nosler or 7mm STW especially if you can't handle the recoil and STILL be able to kill HUMANELY at long ranges. I did and I still shoot a 338 Edge BUT will not hesitate based on my results to use the 7mm08 with 162 ELDM out to 1000 YES that is right 1000 yards....the bullet doesn't lie folks.
My 260AI loves the 140 in AMAX and ELDM, and just as stated, it expands well at extended ranges on deer and similar sized game. Even on marmots.I guess no one here shoots bergers since target bullets shouldnt be used on game. Here is an excerpt from Nathan Fosters ballistic studies website. If you’ve never been to his site I highly recommend it. Nathan has complied real world data on killing of game with all manners of bullets and provides some good insight.
Fyi the 140 amax or eldm has the same reputation in 6.5 caliber.
Dead on accurate! The hunter and gun writer John Barsness has often posted that if you think of them in distance, the 280 at 100 yards equals the 7mm08 at 0. And the 7mm Rem Mag is 100 yards over the 280.Notice the 7-08 vel and energy @ 1,000yds is very similar to the 7mmRM @ 1,200yds, and the same for the 800/1,000 yds.