Match your bullet with your speed for hunting, too many people don't realize a bullet going 3,500 fps is great. Then you realize bullet is designed to open between 2,000 and 2,600fps, you get pinhole or no penitration. 6.5 swede is a great combination of bullet selection and speed.
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Sonart
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Thanks for the answer, i guess i wouldn't shoot over 300 yards
Bullets designed to operate at lower impact velocity, dont pencil at much higher velocity. They expand, sometimes violently and explosive. A bullet that only operates 2600-2000 can be very useful at high muzzle velocity, at long distance. My suggestion, don't use a bullet with such a narrow window of performance. Get a Berger hybrid or eldm that works well from 3000-1800fps. Have a Lazer with lots of short range impacts? Get a solid or accubond even a partition.
We will have to agree to disagree, I push my 270 around 3100fps. I have had couple of whitetail Deer I have shot multiple times with the wrong bullet. I recovered the animals, with 270 Dia holes on both sides. One had a hole direct through heart. I asked an old timer about it and he said the wrong bullet at the wrong speed will either explode or nose will collapse and pinhole. I was a beginner at reloading. Now I use a mono bullet in my 270. I believe you are thinking of the ELDX is a hunting bullet, the M IS FOR MATCH. Just my 2 cents
BrentM
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Very counterintuitive to think a bullet will pencil at a higher impact vs lower. The entire design of a long range bullet for hunting is to target a lower speed for expansion. The biggest issue with frangible bullets is that they tend to grenade at high impact velocity. There is a bit of science behind all that these with the rage of long range hunting
Phil Rizzo
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I'd be looking for a new bullet if I experienced that.
I think it's makes sense to use bullets as advertised for their intended purpose but I don't necessarily count on getting "advertised" results. I just think there are too many variables. I'm kinda down on the ELD-X right now. I've also seen less than optimal performance from Berger hybrids. All animals were recovered, which is the main thing but it seems that on any given day, I'll have DRT and the next time I'll be tracking the thing all over creation. Most of my experience comes from shooting crop damage does. Honestly, I've gotten the most consistent performance out the old boring Accubonds, ballistic tips and gamekings. But this is only out to 265 and in the high 2k muzzle velocities. I can see where you'd want the high BC bullets that a lot of you guys use way out there. I'm doing load development for my new PRC with a 130 Gamechanger. I hope it will kill something.
Phil Rizzo
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not trying to one up you, but I did have a YZ490, '83 model. That might be like a 3 up.??
And Nosler Accubond has been the most predictable expanding and penetrating game bullet i've shot in about 40 years of killing deer and pigs. anywhere from 3400 down to about 2950MV. From 110-160grs.
Accuracy is hard to beat. and the ease of tuning is even harder.
I haven't killed over maybe 300yds with them but with that nose and PC tip initiating expansion Id have no fear going to 500 or maybe 600 at my velocity.
And im learning the Ballistic Tip "Hunting" is very well behaved. Especially since the heavier weights for caliber have become available.
And Nosler Accubond has been the most predictable expanding and penetrating game bullet i've shot in about 40 years of killing deer and pigs. anywhere from 3400 down to about 2950MV. From 110-160grs.
Accuracy is hard to beat. and the ease of tuning is even harder.
I haven't killed over maybe 300yds with them but with that nose and PC tip initiating expansion Id have no fear going to 500 or maybe 600 at my velocity.
And im learning the Ballistic Tip "Hunting" is very well behaved. Especially since the heavier weights for caliber have become available.
BrentM
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Hmmm I ride and race a modified 350. Revs to 13k and will make your eyes bleed in the desert. In the woods it just barks like a rapid wolf and blazes its own path. Can I play? Ha ha
I've been running ballistic tip bullets since the 90's. Mainly predators but then used them on caribou in Alaska and deer and elk in Idaho.
The 120 and 140 ballistic tip in the 6.5 are stone killers, just don't have the BC everyone is looking for. Inside 400 yards they're good
randy181421
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I love my prc for deer hunting
randy181421
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It is so much better further you shoot it. Seekins 6.5 element
I really like the 130 Accubond but I guess they are discontinued so, that leaves me with the 140, which I suppose should be fine. I used to shoot the 130 in my 6.5-284 and it was great. I also like the 120 Barnes TTSX that I use in my son's Creedmore. It really seems to hit hard at closer ranges. I just wonder if the 120-130 class stuff would be OK for an elk out to 400-500 yards? The load i currently have with the 130 Sierra in my PRC is on 58.3 grains of H1000 (24" bbl). I'm guessing it's at somewhere around 3,150 but I'll see as my friend just got the new Garmin Xero.
