375 Snipetac 410gr hybrid speed

[Coercionist]

With the advent of the new 410gr berger hybrid, I got to wondering about a project I could put together for it. I'm considering a 375 Cheytac improved (Snipetac). But I was wondering what sort of velocity I would get out of this. I am intending on a longer barrel (38"). I have seen some with the same chambering achieve about 3150 with a 400 grain MTH cutting edge with a 36 inch barrel. Given how the cup core bullets generally run a little slower than the solids, should I assume the new berger, with it's slight to weight gain, to run about the same (3150 fps) with a slightly longer barrel? I haven't seen very much data for the improved variant of this case so I'm kind of unsure of what to expect any and all information would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Taylorbok]

If you don't build a gun already I'm gonna have a melt down
(PS that took way longer than I anticipated and you've actually started way more threads about it than I initially thought)

375 cheytac imp variants

I hope this post finds you well. I've recently been venturing into the world of the 375 Cheytac and its intriguing variants, primarily focusing on the 375 DCM, VM2, and Snipetac. I am particularly interested in the ballistics of these cartridges, specifically with regards to velocities achieved...

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Improved 375 cheytac

I'm diving into a new project and need some advice from the experts here. I've been thinking about building up a rifle chambered for an improved 375 Cheytac. I've been researching for a while now, but I'm struggling to decide on the best reamer options for my specific needs. I'm considering a...

www.longrangehunting.com

416 Stroker/Snipetac

For a while now I have been trying to find out information that can lead to me making a rifle system that can push the envelope out to 2 miles so I can compete later on. I originally was looking into an ultra fast .338 like the snipetac or 33xc however as some of you have pointed out they have...

www.longrangehunting.com

33xc velocity

When it comes to competition shooting at extended ranges (1-1.5 miles) in the past few years the 33xc has seemed to have taken this range by storm and has been winning a majority of these competitions. I am looking to build a rifle in this caliber for both amateur elr shooting and big game...

www.longrangehunting.com

338 enabelr

After researching cheytac sized rifles for a while now, Ive come to the conclusion the to fit my wants and needs a big 338 will be required. In my eyes there are three to choose from, arranged by case capacity: the 33xc, 338 enabler, and then the 338 cheytac/snipetac/allen mag. My velocity goals...

www.longrangehunting.com

Switch barrel ELR caliber selection

After a good bit of research I have decided that for what I want, a 20-25ish pound rifle with the capability to shoot at ranges from 1000 yards to 2 miles and also bag an elk at 1000 yards, a switch barrel rifle would suit my wants best given that any one caliber can not efficiently fill every...

www.longrangehunting.com

37/41xc for 2 mile?

After a good bit of research and some opportunities I may have (Starting up a big bore shooting team at my college-already has a small bore and air rifle) I have decided if I receive the funding, to build a rifle for KO1M and KO2M. For the one mile build I think the 33xc has it covered, given...

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.30 and .375 long range hunter build

Recently I have wanted a ballistic hot rod and was initially looking at the Cheytac case however after consideration I have decided that the level of power the Cheytac outputs is not required for my situation. I want my rifle, based on either 30-338 lapua imp or 300 norma imp, to have a switch...

www.longrangehunting.com

Caliber discussion

Recently I have wanted a ballistic hot rod and was initially looking at the Cheytac case however after consideration I have decided that the level of power the Cheytac outputs is not required for my situation. I want my rifle, based on either 30-338 lapua imp or 300 norma imp, to have a switch...

www.longrangehunting.com

300 norma imp v 30-338 lapua imp

Recently I have been searching for a hot rod of some sorts, ballistically speaking, Initially I was looking for load data for the Cheytech level rifles however after extensive research I have came to the conclusion that I personally do not need a cheytac. One thing that I have been looking at...

www.longrangehunting.com

375 cheytac vs Snipetac

I have decided that within a few years I want to build a Cheytac sized rifle on a repeating action. For chamberings I was at one point looking at 37XC however, I want to shoot the heavier mono bullets from cutting edge and such so I want the extra power of the Cheytac case. My question is how...

www.longrangehunting.com

Standard 375 Cheytac vs Snipetac

I have decided that I want to build a Cheytac sized rifle on a repeating action. For chamberings I was at one point looking at 37XC however, I want to shoot the heavier mono bullets from cutting edge and such so I want the extra power of the Cheytac case. My question is how much of a difference...

www.longrangehunting.com

375/338 enabler vs 37/33xc vs 375/338 Snipetac or cheytac

I am looking to build a switch barrel rifle for ultra long range hunting and target shooting. I have my build basically put together in my mind except for the chambering I’m trying to decide between the 37/33XC, 375/338 enabler and the 375/338 Snipetac. I want to run this gun as a repeater so...

www.longrangehunting.com

.375 chamberings for ELR hunting and shooting

Within a few years, I’m looking to travel the world and hunt game of every size. Including Kodiak bear, Cape buffalo, and maybe a giraffe if I can. To be able to safely take these game and abide by whatever laws that are set in their area I need a cartridge with a caliber of at least .375. I’ve...

www.longrangehunting.com

Big 375 chamberings

I was looking, in the future, to hunt world wide and would need a rifle for long range dangerous game. Whether it be kodiak bear or a Cape buffalo. I want a rifle of .375 caliber and was looking at a few different chamberings namely: 375 mercenary, 375 snipetac, 375 cheytac, and lastly the 375...

www.longrangehunting.com

 

[Coercionist]

If you don't build a gun already I'm gonna have a melt down
(PS that took way longer than I anticipated and you've actually started way more threads about it than I initially thought)

375 cheytac imp variants

I hope this post finds you well. I've recently been venturing into the world of the 375 Cheytac and its intriguing variants, primarily focusing on the 375 DCM, VM2, and Snipetac. I am particularly interested in the ballistics of these cartridges, specifically with regards to velocities achieved...

www.longrangehunting.com

Improved 375 cheytac

I'm diving into a new project and need some advice from the experts here. I've been thinking about building up a rifle chambered for an improved 375 Cheytac. I've been researching for a while now, but I'm struggling to decide on the best reamer options for my specific needs. I'm considering a...

www.longrangehunting.com

416 Stroker/Snipetac

For a while now I have been trying to find out information that can lead to me making a rifle system that can push the envelope out to 2 miles so I can compete later on. I originally was looking into an ultra fast .338 like the snipetac or 33xc however as some of you have pointed out they have...

www.longrangehunting.com

33xc velocity

When it comes to competition shooting at extended ranges (1-1.5 miles) in the past few years the 33xc has seemed to have taken this range by storm and has been winning a majority of these competitions. I am looking to build a rifle in this caliber for both amateur elr shooting and big game...

www.longrangehunting.com

338 enabelr

After researching cheytac sized rifles for a while now, Ive come to the conclusion the to fit my wants and needs a big 338 will be required. In my eyes there are three to choose from, arranged by case capacity: the 33xc, 338 enabler, and then the 338 cheytac/snipetac/allen mag. My velocity goals...

www.longrangehunting.com

Switch barrel ELR caliber selection

After a good bit of research I have decided that for what I want, a 20-25ish pound rifle with the capability to shoot at ranges from 1000 yards to 2 miles and also bag an elk at 1000 yards, a switch barrel rifle would suit my wants best given that any one caliber can not efficiently fill every...

www.longrangehunting.com

37/41xc for 2 mile?

After a good bit of research and some opportunities I may have (Starting up a big bore shooting team at my college-already has a small bore and air rifle) I have decided if I receive the funding, to build a rifle for KO1M and KO2M. For the one mile build I think the 33xc has it covered, given...

www.longrangehunting.com

.30 and .375 long range hunter build

Recently I have wanted a ballistic hot rod and was initially looking at the Cheytac case however after consideration I have decided that the level of power the Cheytac outputs is not required for my situation. I want my rifle, based on either 30-338 lapua imp or 300 norma imp, to have a switch...

www.longrangehunting.com

Caliber discussion

Recently I have wanted a ballistic hot rod and was initially looking at the Cheytac case however after consideration I have decided that the level of power the Cheytac outputs is not required for my situation. I want my rifle, based on either 30-338 lapua imp or 300 norma imp, to have a switch...

www.longrangehunting.com

300 norma imp v 30-338 lapua imp

Recently I have been searching for a hot rod of some sorts, ballistically speaking, Initially I was looking for load data for the Cheytech level rifles however after extensive research I have came to the conclusion that I personally do not need a cheytac. One thing that I have been looking at...

www.longrangehunting.com

375 cheytac vs Snipetac

I have decided that within a few years I want to build a Cheytac sized rifle on a repeating action. For chamberings I was at one point looking at 37XC however, I want to shoot the heavier mono bullets from cutting edge and such so I want the extra power of the Cheytac case. My question is how...

www.longrangehunting.com

Standard 375 Cheytac vs Snipetac

I have decided that I want to build a Cheytac sized rifle on a repeating action. For chamberings I was at one point looking at 37XC however, I want to shoot the heavier mono bullets from cutting edge and such so I want the extra power of the Cheytac case. My question is how much of a difference...

www.longrangehunting.com

375/338 enabler vs 37/33xc vs 375/338 Snipetac or cheytac

I am looking to build a switch barrel rifle for ultra long range hunting and target shooting. I have my build basically put together in my mind except for the chambering I’m trying to decide between the 37/33XC, 375/338 enabler and the 375/338 Snipetac. I want to run this gun as a repeater so...

www.longrangehunting.com

.375 chamberings for ELR hunting and shooting

Within a few years, I’m looking to travel the world and hunt game of every size. Including Kodiak bear, Cape buffalo, and maybe a giraffe if I can. To be able to safely take these game and abide by whatever laws that are set in their area I need a cartridge with a caliber of at least .375. I’ve...

www.longrangehunting.com

Big 375 chamberings

I was looking, in the future, to hunt world wide and would need a rifle for long range dangerous game. Whether it be kodiak bear or a Cape buffalo. I want a rifle of .375 caliber and was looking at a few different chamberings namely: 375 mercenary, 375 snipetac, 375 cheytac, and lastly the 375...

www.longrangehunting.com

Lol I can understand and I try not to flood the threads. I just use this for them as a way to gather new information about projects I may or may not build. For this, I was just curious about the new berger coming out and also wondering if it is might be used for military applications given the failed 375 enabelr and its 407gr solids. Glad to see Berger is making something the community has been wanting

 

[Erik Kiser]

Military can't use expanding bullets. The new hybrid will likely not meet Geneva Convention rules

 

[Bravo 4]

Military can't use expanding bullets. The new hybrid will likely not meet Geneva Convention rules

Not picking on you brother, but that's not entirely correct, we (ok they, I just retired 3 months ago) use 215 grain Bergers in the .300 Norma Mag. They are referred to as a turn to fracture bullet, not an expanding one.

 

[Coercionist]

Not picking on you brother, but that's not entirely correct, we (ok they, I just retired 3 months ago) use 215 grain Bergers in the .300 Norma Mag. They are referred to as a turn to fracture bullet, not an expanding one.

That is true. I was thinking of the 77gr OTM in the mk12 spr as well. Also, congrats on the retirement!

 

[Erik Kiser]

Not picking on you brother, but that's not entirely correct, we (ok they, I just retired 3 months ago) use 215 grain Bergers in the .300 Norma Mag. They are referred to as a turn to fracture bullet, not an expanding one.

I stand corrected. Just assumed it would be considered an expanding bullet. Thanks

 

[Bravo 4]

I definitely see where that conclusion can be drawn, the 215 Bergers are one of my favorite .30 cal bullets for hunting. Out of ignorance a JAG officer in Iraq took the M118LR ammo (175 grain Matchking) out of circulation for a bit as he made the determination that it was illegal to use. He was rightfully squashed on that soon after.

 

[del2les]

Military can't use expanding bullets. The new hybrid will likely not meet Geneva Convention rules

Department of Defense "Law of War Manual", updated December 2016:

"6.5.4.4 Expanding Bullets. The law of war does not prohibit the use of bullets that expand or flatten easily in the human body. Like other weapons, such bullets are only prohibited if they are calculated to cause superfluous injury. 74) The U.S. armed forces have used expanding bullets in various counter-terrorism and hostage rescue operations, some of which have been conducted in the context of armed conflict. The 1899 Declaration on Expanding Bullets prohibits the use of expanding bullets in armed conflicts in which all States that are parties to the conflict are also Party to the 1899 Declaration on Expanding Bullets. 75) The United States is not a Party to the 1899 Declaration on Expanding Bullets, in part because evidence was not presented at the diplomatic conference that expanding bullets produced unnecessarily severe or cruel wounds. "

 

[Bravo 4]

That is true. I was thinking of the 77gr OTM in the mk12 spr as well. Also, congrats on the retirement!

Thanks!
Also the M118LR and both versions of the MK248 all have .308 caliber Matchking bullets.