300wm & 190 gn berger VLD's

gspman

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Just wanted to say i have finally a load dialed in for a newly rebarreled rem700xcr. Like everyone... time is short, work demands are heavy, elk season is coming.

I am shooting 190 Berger VLDs shootin < .5in @ 200yds (my zero) with 78.8gn of h1000 at 3050 fps and a winchester primer seated 10 thou off the lands.

The pressure is off, now i can mess around with Accubonds and Interbonds at my leisure.

I am still recovering from major back surgery (l4/l5/s1 fusion - March 12), now that i have a load i can work on my conditioning. Here in WI the alitude is basically a 1000ft asl.

Just venting a bit, thanks for the read !!
 

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I thought you were looking for a powder 'till I read your post.... I was going to say h1000 or rl25.... You are there already.... My Pops had a lower back fusion too... good and bad to it, like everything.... He's mostly recovered, but he has some permanent nerve damage too....
 

BEEMAN

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I thought your speeds would of been higher. What kind of barrel and length? I get 3000 fps with a 215 and 79 gr 0f H1000.
 

Lefty7mmstw

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the 215 is a weird duck... the short bearing surface allows a bit more speed for the bullet weight. ~ 3,100 fps for a 190 and just under 3,000 fps for a 200 is normal for a 300win with a 24-26" bbl...
 

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Guys, he found a load with the accuracy he wants. Who cares if there -might- be another 50fps to be had?

I shoot a berger 190 at 2990fps using 78.2 gr of H1000 with 215 primers out of a 10 twist 25" barrel.
 

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I would tell you to stay away from 190 Berger's. My 300 wm with H1000 shoots them very accurately @ 3000 fps. About 5 years ago I killed a small cow elk with this load. The shot was about 250 yards. She was quartering away a bit. The entrance wound was in the liver area. A bit back. I expected some penetration from this bullet & only got 8 inches. She laid down & I had to shoot her again in the head. With a tougher bullet it would have went into the heart/lung area and possibly even exited the far shoulder. I also lost a huge mulie buck shooting 140's from a 270.
I will never use Bergers or Barnes bullets on big game again. Tell you the Barnes train wreck story another time. I am shooting the Nosler 200 PT now while bear hunting here in Idaho. They are traveling @ 3000 fps & shoot into a ragged hole at 100 yards.
Thanks, Kirk
 

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I was blessed with a MT bull elk @ 931 yards in 2013 with 190 Berger VLD @ 3043 FPS using 75 H4831SC CCI250 3.62" COAL out of 24".

Shot was on the chest area, he managed to ran with the herd ~200 yards then rolled/slid down 600 yards down a coulee before he finally expired.
 

Jaxdialation

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Sir, your shot placement was not good. That was the problem. You also expected a bullet to perform differently than it is designed to perform.

I would tell you to stay away from 190 Berger's. My 300 wm with H1000 shoots them very accurately @ 3000 fps. About 5 years ago I killed a small cow elk with this load. The shot was about 250 yards. She was quartering away a bit. The entrance wound was in the liver area.
 

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It does feel good to finally get a load dialed in so you can move on to practicing at longer distances. That 190 should work well for you, shoot it with confidence.

I have not shot the 190 out of my 300 win mag, but I have shot the 210 vld and 215 hybrid. With H1000 and RL25 I can push either bullet into the 2950 range (26" barrel) without pressure signs, but I was never able to find an accuracy node anywhere near there. It does shoot 1/4 moa but down around 2850.
 
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