Try 91-92grs of R-33 with a 230 Berger in your improved. That is what mine likes and it's about identical in capacity to yours in Norma brass but is about 108.9grs in 423 Dakota brass. Another guy has used my reamer and his shoots the same load. It will shoot that load in the .1's and .2's at 3045fps. I'm .007" off the lands or 3.608" OAL. My throat length is .235" so it will work with both 215's and 230's. The barrel is a 30" Bartlein 4 groove 10" twist.
.300 Norma magnum for hunting??
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Idaho, thanks for the data with RL33, I've got a bunch of it to burn ....
Finally got around to making me a modified case last night for my Stoney Pt OAL gauge from a fired case .... Gonna sit down and run every single bullet I have over 180 gr to record the rifling contact ogive measurement and resulting cartridge oal ......
EDIT .....
Just ran the Bergers and these are the measurements for ogive and cartridge oal for the rifling kiss in the the 300 LRH......
..............Bullet....................... ogive oal ..........cartridge oal
230 gr Berger Hybrid Target ...........2.880" ................3.655"
215 gr Berger Hybrid Target............2.880" ................3.647"
210 gr Berger VLD Target................2.853" ................3.540"
210 gr Berger VLD Hunting..............2.850" .................3.532"
200 gr Berger Hybrid Target.............2.880" ................3.624"
Finally got around to making me a modified case last night for my Stoney Pt OAL gauge from a fired case .... Gonna sit down and run every single bullet I have over 180 gr to record the rifling contact ogive measurement and resulting cartridge oal ......
EDIT .....
Just ran the Bergers and these are the measurements for ogive and cartridge oal for the rifling kiss in the the 300 LRH......
..............Bullet....................... ogive oal ..........cartridge oal
230 gr Berger Hybrid Target ...........2.880" ................3.655"
215 gr Berger Hybrid Target............2.880" ................3.647"
210 gr Berger VLD Target................2.853" ................3.540"
210 gr Berger VLD Hunting..............2.850" .................3.532"
200 gr Berger Hybrid Target.............2.880" ................3.624"
Your throat must be around .270-.275" then. I have some R-50 I might try over the winter to see if I can get a bit more case fill and maybe a bit more velocity. The accuracy with that load is phenomenal though. I've shot the 230's over 3100fps but the accuracy is around that 3045fps range.
Elkhunter1983
Well-Known Member
.300 Norma Magnum
215 Grain, PN: 30423 Bullet, CIP 3.680" COAL, 26" Barrel. 11/5/2014 RB
Bullet
Powder
Start Load In Grains
Approx. Start Velocity
Max. Load In Grains
Approx. Max. Velocity
Fill Ratio
215 Grain
Accurate Magpro
81.5
2795
86.0
2945
90%
215 Grain
Alliant RE-33
92.5
2838
97.3
3007
98%
215 Grain
Hodgdon H1000
83.5
2793
87.7
2932
98%
215 Grain
Norma 217
87.0
2823
91.6
2971
103%
215 Grain
Hodgdon Retumbo
87.0
2828
91.7
2974
101%
215 Grain
Viht. N570
88.0
2847
92.8
3018
98%
215 Grain
Ramshot Magnum
84.0
2763
88.2
2896
90%
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.300 Norma Magnum
230 Grain, PN: 30428 Bullet, CIP 3.680" COAL, 26" Barrel. 1/6/2015 RB
Bullet
Powder
Start Load In Grains
Approx. Start Velocity
Max. Load In Grains
Approx. Max. Velocity
Fill Ratio
230 Grain
Alliant RE 25
78.0
2695
82.3
2821
93%
230 Grain
Hodgdon Retumbo
84.5
2735
89.1
2874
100%
230 Grain
Hodgdon US 869
94.0
2669
99.2
2844
105%
230 Grain
Hodgdon H50BMG
90.0
2682
94.7
2848
105%
230 Grain
Alliant RE 50
93.5
2736
98.6
2913
103%
230 Grain
Ramshot Magnum
81.5
2668
85.8
2800
89%
230 Grain
Alliant RE 33
90.0
2755
94.7
2916
97%
230 Grain
Hodgdon H1000
81.0
2697
85.4
2838
97%
230 Grain
Viht. N570
86.0
2777
90.3
2926
97%
230 Grain
Norma 217
84.5
2732
89.1
2875
102%
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215 Grain, PN: 30423 Bullet, CIP 3.680" COAL, 26" Barrel. 11/5/2014 RB
Bullet
Powder
Start Load In Grains
Approx. Start Velocity
Max. Load In Grains
Approx. Max. Velocity
Fill Ratio
215 Grain
Accurate Magpro
81.5
2795
86.0
2945
90%
215 Grain
Alliant RE-33
92.5
2838
97.3
3007
98%
215 Grain
Hodgdon H1000
83.5
2793
87.7
2932
98%
215 Grain
Norma 217
87.0
2823
91.6
2971
103%
215 Grain
Hodgdon Retumbo
87.0
2828
91.7
2974
101%
215 Grain
Viht. N570
88.0
2847
92.8
3018
98%
215 Grain
Ramshot Magnum
84.0
2763
88.2
2896
90%
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.300 Norma Magnum
230 Grain, PN: 30428 Bullet, CIP 3.680" COAL, 26" Barrel. 1/6/2015 RB
Bullet
Powder
Start Load In Grains
Approx. Start Velocity
Max. Load In Grains
Approx. Max. Velocity
Fill Ratio
230 Grain
Alliant RE 25
78.0
2695
82.3
2821
93%
230 Grain
Hodgdon Retumbo
84.5
2735
89.1
2874
100%
230 Grain
Hodgdon US 869
94.0
2669
99.2
2844
105%
230 Grain
Hodgdon H50BMG
90.0
2682
94.7
2848
105%
230 Grain
Alliant RE 50
93.5
2736
98.6
2913
103%
230 Grain
Ramshot Magnum
81.5
2668
85.8
2800
89%
230 Grain
Alliant RE 33
90.0
2755
94.7
2916
97%
230 Grain
Hodgdon H1000
81.0
2697
85.4
2838
97%
230 Grain
Viht. N570
86.0
2777
90.3
2926
97%
230 Grain
Norma 217
84.5
2732
89.1
2875
102%
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Elkhunter1983
Well-Known Member
Congrats! When you get it all set up I'd like to see some pictures - and a range report. Rifle specs?
Elkhunter1983
Well-Known Member
Bartlein 5r 1:8". A3 Edge stock. Pt&g m5 bottom for the 3.850 length. Putting a holland 20moa level base on it and hope to find an xtr 2 to top it off whenever they become available again.
Meet the newest addition to the family, Louise. Picked her up from GAP today. These are shots 4, 5, & 6 at 102y. I shot a nice 1" 3-shot group at 356y for the final group of the evening. I've done zero load work so needless to say, I'm really looking forward to getting her dialed in! Rifle specs:
Surgeon XL
KMW stock in McM camo
Bartlein 1-9 twist finished at 27"
Badger FTE brake
Finished in FDE cerakote
Surgeon XL
KMW stock in McM camo
Bartlein 1-9 twist finished at 27"
Badger FTE brake
Finished in FDE cerakote
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longrangehunterII
Well-Known Member
Very nice looking rig..... even upside down! lol I had George barrel my TRG-42 to 300 NM, I sent him a Bartlein R5 1:8" finished at 27.5". I found the node on the first try using 83.5 H1000 F215M using the 230 Berger Hybrid @ 2.850" CBTO at 2900 fps. Easy peasy to load for, and shoot. Good Luck with her.
Thanks Cole. I used your COAL from a previous post! This load was 88gr of H50BMG. Not sure what the velocity is but seating depth is spot on. I'll play around with the charge weight a little but otherwise she's GTG.
longrangehunterII
Well-Known Member
That's right at the velocity that I found for my load and barrel length, which is only 1/4" longer then yours. You must be on or near the OBT with that powder?
Nice work! Looks like you have a real winner.
Nice work! Looks like you have a real winner.
