284win

For better long range performance I think a bullet that is .315 BC or greater that can give you a muzzle velocity of 2950 or greater is the ticket. That correlates to a 160-170 grain high BC bullet. IMO if shooting less than 160 grains the 6.5 x 284 Norma would be a better cartridge.

284 Win needs a long action to shoot the heavies. With 162 gr ELD the COAL is 3.07" with CBTO measured .015" behind the lands. You will need a custom match reamer like George Gardner's GAP. The GAP has a neck size of .3173 which is a "no turn" neck if using Lapua or Peterson brass which yield loaded rounds around .315 with the proper neck tension. I use standard rifling. Barrel is as accurate as can be for hunting. I sent three dummy rounds with the maximum length to the gunsmith.
 
I built my 284 Win on a Whitworth Mark X action. 24" E.R. Shaw 1.5 contour barrel and B&C Medalist stock.

I originally ran Norma brass. Was pretty good. After about 5 reloads on it, I got a deal on some Peterson brass.

I'm running 150gr NBT over RL17.

One issue with the SAAMI chamber is that it has a really long freebore!
Just so that you are aware.
 
For better long range performance I think a bullet that is .315 BC or greater that can give you a muzzle velocity of 2950 or greater is the ticket. That correlates to a 160-170 grain high BC bullet. IMO if shooting less than 160 grains the 6.5 x 284 Norma would be a better cartridge.

284 Win needs a long action to shoot the heavies. With 162 gr ELD the COAL is 3.07" with CBTO measured .015" behind the lands. You will need a custom match reamer like George Gardner's GAP. The GAP has a neck size of .3173 which is a "no turn" neck if using Lapua or Peterson brass which yield loaded rounds around .315 with the proper neck tension. I use standard rifling. Barrel is as accurate as can be for hunting. I sent three dummy rounds with the maximum length to the gunsmith.
This is great information as I want to shoot the 162 g ELD Match as one of my heavier rounds. Sounds very close to what we calculated the COAL to be.
 
Anyone reloading for this? It's been on my mind as a possibility over the 7-08. Bullet weights will range from 90-175. No settlement on length ir twist as of yet. Not looking for any AI of any kind fir cartridge.
You can't go wrong with a .284 Winchester. Even in the stock short action is a great hunting rifle comparable to a .270, .280, 7mm-08 etc. but if you go with a 'medium' or long action, then the cartridge is a standout that achieves the optimal balance between energy delivery and precision accuracy. There is a reason the .284 has a long and ongoing history with the F1 1000 yard competition shooters.

I have a Winchester Model 100, Savage 99 and just finished a custom build in this caliber.....I've been wanting to build a custom to get the COAL out to reach the potential of this cartridge. I went with a Borden Ridgeline 'Medium' Action, Pacnor barrel 9:1 and, after doing a lot of snooping around on forums decided on a 25.25" barrel length. In load development now and so far things are looking like I have a tack driver with the limiting factor being the person pulling the trigger!

While the .284 Winchester is not talked about a lot in mainstream hunting, people in the know rave about the cartridge and there is ample load data and knowledge out there and enough people shooting either a stock .284 or 6.5x.284 that Peterson and others are producing brass to fill the demand.

Also note that the original load data from Winchester is conservative due to the confinement of the short action and chambering for an autoloader so there is ample room for performance gains that allow the .284 in a medium or long action to deliver energy just below the 7mm Magnums but with greater accuracy and less recoil.

You should also know a couple of historical facts about this load to understand why it is not well known..... first of all Winchester chambered it in a short action autoloader and lever action to make light, accurate and price pointed to compete with the .270.......problem was there were a ton of .270's out there people were familiar with as a tried and true hunting rifle and the .284 performance was only slightly better in a short action. Sure the rifles were relatively light and had shorter barrels etc. but there was no compelling reason to change.

The 'standout' in the short action were Melvin Forbes' Ultra Lite Arms chambered in a .284 . This rifle came in at under 4.5 pounds (no scope) and was an accurate and lethal backcountry hunting rifle. It was also his most popular selling. You never see these come up for sale.

At the time, early 60's, the short fat cartridge with the rebated rim was exotic / 'different' than standard long actions in use at the time like the .270, .280, 7mm-08 and .30-06 ...... in actuality this design was decades ahead of its time then as the .284 cartridge design has been the base concept for all these new 'hot' short magnum hunting cartridges are based upon.

Hindsight is 20/20 . Winchester should have gone all in with the .284 and developed a medium action around the cartridge to get the potential without the extra throw and weight of a long action. Then it would have been a standout. Now that there are custom medium actions available one can build a fantastic hunting rifle capable of taking anything from varmints to big game if they want to go through the time and $ it takes......and, if you have the $ but not the time Jim Borden can build you one. Personally, I've spent way too much on this build but am happy with it.....I justify it by telling myself that I don't need any other rifle, just this one no matter what game I am going after.
 
This is great information as I want to shoot the 162 g ELD Match as one of my heavier rounds. Sounds very close to what we calculated the COAL to be.
Like 284 Win and others have said… definitely on a long action to shoot the long 162+ bullets.
My load with 162 grain AMax is 3.170" COAL sitting .020 off.
My freebore is long… almost too long as I have long jumps with all other lighter bullets. However, they still shoot 150's great also.
 
You can't go wrong with a .284 Winchester. Even in the stock short action is a great hunting rifle comparable to a .270, .280, 7mm-08 etc. but if you go with a 'medium' or long action, then the cartridge is a standout that achieves the optimal balance between energy delivery and precision accuracy. There is a reason the .284 has a long and ongoing history with the F1 1000 yard competition shooters.

I have a Winchester Model 100, Savage 99 and just finished a custom build in this caliber.....I've been wanting to build a custom to get the COAL out to reach the potential of this cartridge. I went with a Borden Ridgeline 'Medium' Action, Pacnor barrel 9:1 and, after doing a lot of snooping around on forums decided on a 25.25" barrel length. In load development now and so far things are looking like I have a tack driver with the limiting factor being the person pulling the trigger!

While the .284 Winchester is not talked about a lot in mainstream hunting, people in the know rave about the cartridge and there is ample load data and knowledge out there and enough people shooting either a stock .284 or 6.5x.284 that Peterson and others are producing brass to fill the demand.

Also note that the original load data from Winchester is conservative due to the confinement of the short action and chambering for an autoloader so there is ample room for performance gains that allow the .284 in a medium or long action to deliver energy just below the 7mm Magnums but with greater accuracy and less recoil.

You should also know a couple of historical facts about this load to understand why it is not well known..... first of all Winchester chambered it in a short action autoloader and lever action to make light, accurate and price pointed to compete with the .270.......problem was there were a ton of .270's out there people were familiar with as a tried and true hunting rifle and the .284 performance was only slightly better in a short action. Sure the rifles were relatively light and had shorter barrels etc. but there was no compelling reason to change.

The 'standout' in the short action were Melvin Forbes' Ultra Lite Arms chambered in a .284 . This rifle came in at under 4.5 pounds (no scope) and was an accurate and lethal backcountry hunting rifle. It was also his most popular selling. You never see these come up for sale.

At the time, early 60's, the short fat cartridge with the rebated rim was exotic / 'different' than standard long actions in use at the time like the .270, .280, 7mm-08 and .30-06 ...... in actuality this design was decades ahead of its time then as the .284 cartridge design has been the base concept for all these new 'hot' short magnum hunting cartridges are based upon.

Hindsight is 20/20 . Winchester should have gone all in with the .284 and developed a medium action around the cartridge to get the potential without the extra throw and weight of a long action. Then it would have been a standout. Now that there are custom medium actions available one can build a fantastic hunting rifle capable of taking anything from varmints to big game if they want to go through the time and $ it takes......and, if you have the $ but not the time Jim Borden can build you one. Personally, I've spent way too much on this build but am happy with it.....I justify it by telling myself that I don't need any other rifle, just this one no matter what game I am going after.

Melvin's famous NULA Model 20 put the 284 Win on the hunting radar. It was a highly regarded sheep and goat rifle. Ron Spomer talks about his sheep hunts with the NULA. Wilson Combat bought out the NULA. They produced an anniversary model last year I think. It is a short action I believe.

F-Class was winning using 180 VLDs. At the time F-Class only had 6.5 x 284 premium brass to use. They were expanding the necks to .284 with a mandrel then turning the necks down. Because of that, the custom reamers typically had tighter neck dimensions. When Lapua started making 284 Win brass, the custom match reamers loosened up the neck dimension. The neck wall thickness on Peterson brass is slightly less than the neck wall thickness of Lapua. I don't think it is enough to make a difference in bushing size. However I use a Hornady match die that has different neck bushing sizes for the same neck tension on the Redding S-dies that I use for other calibers.

As far as throat dimensions, for hunting I want to make the boat-tail shoulder junction for max powder space which I feel is critical to optimizing the 284 Win for best velocity and accuracy for hunting. ELDs like to be close to the lands. I don't have enough experience yet with shooting the VLDs but Berger has a paper on the jump subject. Overall I think getting a high BC heavy bullet close to the lands to start with is a good idea.

 
Good advice here. I got my .284 in the mid-70's. Ruger 77 with 22" inch barrel Great gun for both accuracy and portability. For a hunting rifle, I would go with a 9 twist and the shortest action that has a 3" magazine. My favorite load was 140 grain Nosler Partition over H4350. Shot many mule and blacktail deer and a few elk. None ever acted like I needed more velocity or penetration. I would not take a shot at more than 400 yards for big game. So the low BC Nosler was fine for distance and great for terminal performance
 
Good advice here. I got my .284 in the mid-70's. Ruger 77 with 22" inch barrel Great gun for both accuracy and portability. For a hunting rifle, I would go with a 9 twist and the shortest action that has a 3" magazine. My favorite load was 140 grain Nosler Partition over H4350. Shot many mule and blacktail deer and a few elk. None ever acted like I needed more velocity or penetration. I would not take a shot at more than 400 yards for big game. So the low BC Nosler was fine for distance and great for terminal performance
Funny you mention the 140g Nosler Partitions in a .284.....A friend gave me some to use as my break-in rounds and they shot accurately with tight groups from the get go.
 
If any of you would be interested in using 150 partitions… I have a bunch I'll part with.
My son shot them in his SAUM for a bit then switched to 160 Accubond.

I just have too many flavors of 150 + grain that I already use in my 7's.
 
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