.264 Nosler LRAB 129 gr. vs .264 Swift 130 Scirocco II

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  1. 1100 Remington Man

    1100 Remington Man Well-Known Member

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    Have any of you .264 Win Mag shooter with 1/9 twist done a test of these bullets ? Is the BC accurate or not Nolser lists BC G1 of .561 Swift .571 ? What kind of performance have you seen on game & how large ? What is he longest shot made on game with one of these bullets ? I am thinking of trying one of these two bullets. In my Model 70 .264 Win Mag with 24 inch barrel. I will be using Nosler Brass, CCI 250, & Powder I am looking for is some Retumbo to buy. I would like to get 3200 FPS out of my 24 inch barrel. I was going to ask about Berger 130 gr VLD Hunting bullets but they require 1/8 twist so there out of the running. I am currently running Nosler 120gr BT, reason for change looking for higher BC. I was thinking about 140gr bullets but I really only use this rifle on Deer & Antelope. Thanks for all help.
     
  2. gillettehunter

    gillettehunter Well-Known Member

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    I have not personally used either. I have looked at the Scirocco's and it appears that they preform well on game. From what I have read the can be finicky about seating depth, but extremely accurate when they work. The LRAB's are reported to open up very fast and perhaps not penetrate as well. That has been reported with other calibers. You may have to try them and see what you think. With that speed you may be able to use the Bergers despite your twist. You might try them. Bruce
     
  3. stephenr6565

    stephenr6565 Well-Known Member

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    I have a friend that shoots berger 130's out of his 264 with good results i believe his is 24" barrel aswell but im not positive on that I believe it shoots right around 1" groups not bad for close to a 40 yr old factory Winchester that he got from his grandfather and the scope on It Is horrible Its one of those old scopes that you can flip over to the side so you can use the open sights It you want I believe the higher velocities of the 264 allow it to stabilize those even though a 1/8 twist is recommended
     
  4. Leslie Sapp

    Leslie Sapp Well-Known Member

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    I'll be following this thread with interest, as I'm going through the same process. I'm looking for a suitable bullet for Florida deer for my daughters .264 model 70 Winchester.

    It's a 1972 model, with a short throat. I'd like to go with a higher BC bonded bullet, but I'm worried about trying the VLD styles with that short throat.

    We are shooting 120 gr Sierra Pro Hunters in it now. They shoot within .5 MOA at 100 yards, but I'm sure they are going to come apart if used on game at typical Florida ranges. (usually less that 100 yards) What kind of performance did you get with the Nosler BT's at short range?
     
  5. RT2506

    RT2506 Well-Known Member

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    I am shooting the 130 gr Nosler Accubond in my 264 Win mag. I have a custom 700 Rem with a 27 3/4" Shillen 9 twist barrel and I get 3350 fps with 66.5 grs. Retumbo, CCI 250, and WW cases made from 7mm Rem mag cases. Bullet is 10 thousands off the lands. I have shot deer as close at 30 yards and as far as right at 400 yards. I have lost count on how many deer I have shot with the combo but it is in excess of a dozen. All have been DRT and all bullets except one have exited and most shots being through both shoulders. The only bullet I have recovered was from a buck at 111 yards. He was almost facing me and bullet entered the front edge of the left shoulder and was recovered from the smashed ball socket in the right ham. Bullet was a text book mushroom and weight was 87 grs. It does not get much better than that. I would not hesitate to use this combo on elk if I ever got the chance.
     
  6. Marble

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    I have used the Sirocco 2 bullets in my 7mm for a long time. The bullets hold up really well from close range at high velocity and long range on Elk and mule deer.
     
  7. jonthomps

    jonthomps Well-Known Member

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    Excellent reports. I'll be playing around with these badboys in the near future as well.
     
  8. RockyMtnMT

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    I have been running the 130 scirocco in my son's 6.5-06 for several years. They are right at 3000fps. They have been flawless. Passed through all the deer, farthest at 450yrds. Recovered 3 from elk all with 82% retention and perfect mushroom. Nice flat front on the deformed bullet. Farthest elk was at 425yrds through both big shoulder bones and recovered in the far shoulder meat. Took out the front of both lungs, cow just rolled down the hill. Another cow at 300 yards center of the lungs recovered perfect mushroom identical to the shoulder shot just under the hide. Cow traveled three steps and dropped.

    They tend to be finicky in factory barrels, have been very good in custom.

    Hope this helps,

    Steve
     
  9. jonthomps

    jonthomps Well-Known Member

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    I was really considering the Swift 130gr bullet until I read Litz's real-world BC test of them. They are below .500 which is way too low in this bullet weight. I'm sure they're a great bullet, but there are too many other good options for LR hunting with higher bc's.
     
  10. RockyMtnMT

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    Curious how far you are planning to shoot?

    Steve
     
  11. jonthomps

    jonthomps Well-Known Member

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    Hi Steve,

    800-1000. If I'm comfortable with the conditions. At those distances the low impact velocity coupled with the lower bc would almost rule these bullets out if I were choosing between this bullet and a 130gr berger or LRAB, both of which have a .552 bc. (using Litz's corrected LRAB bc) Or a JLK with a bc of .600. I'm not saying the scirocco is a bad hunting bullet, I'm saying there may be better choices for long range hunting.
     
  12. ShootnMathews

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    I am really wanting to try the .264 LRAB in my 6.5-284 but I cannot find them for sale anywhere. Are they even in production? No one has them in stock that I can find.
     
  13. RockyMtnMT

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    Didn't take it wrong, just did not know how far you intended to hunt. BC is an issue for the Sciroccos across the board. They are though the finest lead core hunting bullet out that I have any experience with. Until you get truly long range they are an exceptional choice.

    Good luck,

    Steve
     
  14. jonthomps

    jonthomps Well-Known Member

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    That's definitely good to know. I may have to give the scirocco a try for out here in Missouri. The shots I take on the farm I hunt aren't farther than 400-430y. For my trips to Colorado I may have to stick with the 140gr bergers.