I like the Berger 115 VLD's and Nosler 110 Accubonds out of my .257 Wby. However, Wby has freebore, so I just seat mine to magazine length to make it a repeater since I hunt with that rifle alot, and like to have more than 1 shot in there. It will all just depend man, some rifles like them seated up against the lands, some like them slightly further away. You'll just have to test it out to see. I'd try seating them about 0.003-0.005" just inside the magazine's internal length. It might like them shorter than that, but that's where I'd start if it were my gun. But I'm also not any kind of an expert....But that's just where I'd start. Some folks say for start 0.100" and work your way longer to see what it likes. Everyone has a different method.