Hello everyone. I know people say don't do it and some people say go ahead. I don't care if you think its ethical to shoot deer with a 223. What I want to know is 70 grain bergers on deer. I shoot a REM 700p top with badger hazard and rings and nightforce. I have been shooting a long time and regularly shoot to 800. That being said I'm not trying to shoot 800 yards at deer. I just know the vld is a hard bullet and wanted some first hand or educated or real world experience on this matter. Not neck shots. I already know what that will do. 223 70 grain vld 3100 with 26 grains of varget.