solohunter
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They are privatly owned cervids much the saMe as cattle
..... also no license needed and nk seasons apply,,
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They are privatly owned cervids much the saMe as cattle
..... also no license needed and nk seasons apply,,
Topgun 30-06
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"They are privatly owned cervids much the same as cattle
..... also no license needed and no seasons apply,,"
***I was well aware of that, but had no idea the bullet restriction didn't apply. I think if you had the experience where they didn't leave a blood trail that you can figure out why with little to no expansion that they aren't allowed.
..... also no license needed and no seasons apply,,"
***I was well aware of that, but had no idea the bullet restriction didn't apply. I think if you had the experience where they didn't leave a blood trail that you can figure out why with little to no expansion that they aren't allowed.
solohunter
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I was not pleased with the lack of blood trail but it didnt go very far, Out west where you can see along ways and watch the animal run should not be that big a problem,,,, Might get to find out in two years taking this year off.
A good shooter placing the shot right will put a goat down fast.
A good shooter placing the shot right will put a goat down fast.
Ankeny
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Wow, I see this issue is as controversial on this forum as it is in the local gun shops across the state. I have visited with several game wardens and with a couple of enforcement specialists and to the person they are opposed to the new regulations allowing 22 caliber for deer and antelope. Their concerns are not so much with a person shooting a doe antelope off a hay meadow as it is using 22 caliber on those monster buck mule deer. Furthermore, there is a concern that folks using a 22 cal might be tempted to shoot for the head if they have a doubt about getting into the boiler room. I think it's common knowledge that failed head shots are very problematic. FWIW, I have not spoken with a guide or with an outfitter that is in favor of the new regulations.
On the flip side, it is my understanding that Montana has allowed 22 cal for a number of years and I imagine they too had similar concerns in the early stages. Hopefully, Wyoming's experiences will mirror those of Montana, and in a few years this will all become a non-issue.
On the flip side, it is my understanding that Montana has allowed 22 cal for a number of years and I imagine they too had similar concerns in the early stages. Hopefully, Wyoming's experiences will mirror those of Montana, and in a few years this will all become a non-issue.
Well I'm a licensed guide in Wyoming and i am in favor of the new law. I have not yet talked to a guide who is not in favor of the new law. .22 caliber rifles have been used with good results hunting deer and antelope for many years. I also believe that most .22's shooting a 60 gn bullet will work every bit as well as a .243 using a 58 gn ballistic tip which has been legal for years.
chucknbach
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"..iam on this site to learn not to be made a fool of"
Then maybe you should quit posting and STFU!!! You are the one who keeps coming back for more and you **** sure did ask for help from anyone who would back you up on your head shooting BS and didn't get any!!! Now you seem to be relying on sympathy for doing a tour in Nam and being sick. Listen Booby, I'm sorry for you ills, but I also did my three years during Nam too and you're still making an *** of yourself and the one who keeps coming back for more, LOL! Again I'll tell you I don't care how good you can shoot because it doesn't make a **** bit of difference and you just don't get it!!! Now if you would use just a little bit of common sense YOU would not post any more on this thread and you won't make a fool of yourself any more because it's you that's doing it to yourself, not me!!! Here was your best quote of all, LOL:
"what you call unethical is normal for me !!! lightbulb
I'll back him up! I can and will take head and neck shots. Saying whether something is ethical or not on a hunting forum tells me the person has lost the argument yet doesn't even know it. 2 neck shots last year and a 310yd head shot the year before and there are instances when I will take those shots in the future. I've been debating with myself on going to strictly neck and head shots on antelope and deer.
What your trying to tell extreme and myself is we can't do it. Who in the hell are you to tell somebody what they can or can't do! I for one will judge what I can do! Quit trying to be everyone elses mommy and worry about what you can or can't do.
Topgun just say your peace in a respectable manner then STFU.
I really am pleased with this new reg as I'm sick and tired of some big old ninny or group of ninnys trying to make my responsible choices for me in the way of a law. As far as someone now going out and mowing down a herd of antelope with an AR 15, yeah so what! That's not my choice and I can bet for MOST Wyomingites it won't be either. I for one don't think it went far enough. All restrictions should be lifted, let the hunter make his own choice.
Topgun 30-06
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Your reading comprehension is obviously as bad as your ethics if you're taking 310 yard head shots at big game. Don't like it---Too friggin bad!!! A fixed target IS NOT a moving head of a living, breathing animal that should be respected! Go ahead and back him up all you want because to the contrary of what you just stated, you appear to be the only one on the site that is doing something that is downright stupid at any distance besides him or a lot of others would be in your corner, LOL! Now everyone knows there are two people on here that are detrimental to the LR sport and neither one is me!!! "Topgun just say your peace in a respectable manner then STFU." If that one sentence ain't calling the kettle black! Take a hike and do whatever you feel like, but don't come out on a site and make an *** of yourself like you just did and then really back it up with a couple stupid comments ike you just did with the last several sentences of your post, LOL! To do so isn't going to get you any points with me or anyone else on here!
Topgun 30-06
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Not being cynical at all and I didn't bring the thread back up and attack someone. He did!!! I have my opinion on the subject, told him to do whatever he wanted, but I'd wager a guess that I'm with 99.9% of hunters that think the head shot at any distance is just what I stated. If that wasn't the case, there wouldn't just be two people on this thread that are saying I'm wrong.
chucknbach
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Your face is all red and your arteries are about to pop! You, I'm sure, aren't aware of why this site got started. People on other sites claiming that long range shooting was "UNETHICAL" and down right stupid. Jackasses like you trying to impose your limitation on the rest! So guess what STFu! Since you have decided to impose your ethics on us I will impose mine on you. If you can't make a 300 yrd head shot you are not up to the task of hunting sell your guns and take up minature golf 'cuz you are a threat to wildlife everywhere. It's just down right irresponsible to go out hunting without preparing youself and trying to be on top of your game. You my friend are neither hunter nor a shooter! Just for info I don't care about scoring point with anyone.
I'll stick with my statement of each individual hunter chooses what is right with him and use his OWN ethics to choose. Those douche bags that oppose, well they just don't have a say.
Topgun 30-06
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To the contrary, my blood pressure is fine and so is my shooting unless you didn't look at the entire thread! To post about what you think I can't do in the field because of poor preparation is also pure BS! You do whatever you want, but don't tell those on this thread that you represent more than about 0.1% of hunters at most that are doing what you espouse because it's flat out irresponsible and unethical. All but one other person on this thread is not on your side, so don't just come back at me as the bad guy here! I made the statement a long time ago that the thread should die and you yahoos have kept bringing the subject up, not me, LOL!!! I WILL REPEAT AGAIN--- SHOOTING A TARGET THAT DOESN'T MOVE IS ONE THING COMPARED TO A BRAIN SHOT THAT IS AT MOST A 4"x4" AREA ON SOMETHING THAT CAN MOVE BEFORE THE BULLET GETS THERE!!! It certainly shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the chance for a miserable outcome for the animal is enhanced 100 fold on that little target compared to the large chest shot into the vitals lightbulb PS: This website also isn't entitled "Longrange headhunting" and it's people like you that cause the ethical LR hunters grief!!!
bigngreen
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Everyone I know will take a head shot if the opportunity presents, I've shot a lot of deer in the melon and I've honestly never lost one or even had one take a second shot but I have had to shoot animal twice or track them down when a body shot went wrong. Head shooting a deer at a couple hundred yards is no different than body shooting one at 1200 yards IMO.
Topgun 30-06
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So which is it now, post #28 where you stated you would only take a close head shot or now this post where you're talking a couple hundred yards or are you saying you consider 200 yards a close shot? If it's the latter I would submit that the majority of hunters do not consider 200 yards a close shot! Anyway, I'm done with this thread and you all do what you like as debates like this are a no win situation when discussing things where people think they are infallible!!!
bigngreen
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A couple hundred yards is absolutely close range!!!
