270 Win - 22" vs 24"

To you gentlemen who responded so rudely (now ignored) - you're certainly welcome to your opinion. In your eyes, shame on us / me for expressing ours??? For the record, your approval not asked for or needed. If you wish to criticize some more, feel free to waste your time.

Have a good day and btw, I love my 24" .270 for all the opinions I gave. :)
 
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To you gentlemen who responded so rudely - you're certainly welcome to your opinion. In your eyes, shame on us / me for expressing ours??? For the record, your approval not asked for or needed. If you wish to criticize some more, feel free to waste your time.

Have a good day and btw, I love my 24" .270 for all the opinions I gave. :)
I don't know squat about elk hunting, I never have hunted elk, and unless I hit the lottery I never will. Both from a financial reason, and my ability to walk long distances. In my opinion the more barrel length for overbore cartridges means more horsepower out of the cartridge. A larger gas chamber. I have a .270 AI, I am getting between 3100-3300fps with the Nosler 150gr ABLRs out of a 26 inch, 1:10 Lilja barrel. I use it for hunting whitetail deer in open settings. I have a number of rifles of the same make and model with factory 22-24 inch barrels, I really have not noticed any "disadvantage" to having a 26 inch barrel for my particular application for hunting. I also have rifles with shorter barrels, again specifically for my particular application for hunting.
 
To you gentlemen who responded so rudely - you're certainly welcome to your opinion. In your eyes, shame on us / me for expressing ours??? For the record, your approval not asked for or needed. If you wish to criticize some more, feel free to waste your time.

Have a good day and btw, I love my 24" .270 for all the opinions I gave. :)
i only have a 22" as i wanted a blr. i don't mind having that length as i have lots of other barrel lengths and many are 24". glad we have choices and yours is just fine. you left a great response for those with issues
 
Howdy.

Not one bit of the following is meant to sway your opinion. This is a FWIW post only. Maybe entertaining - maybe informative? Maybe neither or both? I just thought it might (?) merit another discusion.

First, yes, I DID read the 100 Forum posts that said 22" is just fine.....Thank you......next subject please.

HOWEVER - among the many, I also found this post (not mine):

"Over the past years, while using my chrony, someone will get enough nerve to ask if I will chrony their rifle. Once I agree, several others invariably ask. Results? Very few factory loads get within 50-75fps of factory specs. Probably the most common that fall short are the 270, 25-06 with 22" and Remington 7 mag with 24" barrels are as much as 200fps slower. When they see the results, some get mad at me or blame the chrony! The newer 260/6.5s, 708, and 308 with 24" barrels usually get close."

I agree with the above and why my .270 has a 24" barrel. For hunting purposes - advantages of the longer barrel - real or imagined - IMHO - do matter. FPS, trajectory, terminal effectiveness - I'll take every advantege I can get - within reason of course. No need for a 28" barrel.

Will a 22" .270 with 150 gr Partition work on an Elk / Moose? Of course. All day, every day, proven. That said, on an ELK / Moose - every advantage a 24" will give me - Thank You very much, I'll take it for 2 reasons: 1) Each & every external and terminal ballistic advantage the 24" provides and 2) personal confidence.

Of course..........and this is VERY important...........YMMV. :cool:

Ciao.
My .270 AI has a 30" Lilja 1:8" (fastest at the time) 3G barrel with MB. It was specifically built for the 165/175 (2996 FPS is the current accuracy load) Matrix VLD.
.270 AI atop the mountain.jpg

Pick one and move on. But if you are torn between 22" or 24", go with 23". Why complicate it unnecessarily?
 
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My 22" sporter barreled 270 W shoots the 124 Hammer Hunter at 3344 fps into one ragged hole. Great bullet, great accuracy and great speed. That is all I need out of it.
I don't/wont hunt elk with it anyway, so no need to make that leap. But it is a white tail killing machine to way out there should I need it.
 
This is my 270 Win I gifted my Dad 10 years ago.
It is a Ruger M77 tang safety with factory 22" barrel.
This is my opinion, the 22" barrel on a 270 is so lacklustre that you could use rocks more efficiently. The muzzle blast with just about any powder is so ridiculously loud that both myself and my Father were often using ear plugs AND muffs.
Spotlighting, the muzzle flash is so bright that your eyes took about a minute to adjust back so you could see anything.
If I had my choice, I'd go with a 26" barrel, even the 24" is too short.
I have 24" and 26" barrels on my 25-06's, powder usage is so much more efficient.

Cheers.
 
Feenix, i like your style!!

I am a 270 fan. Bought my 1st one at 11 years old. At my peak i had 8. Down to 3 now.

That first one was eventually shot out. 3300 ish rounds.

I rebarreled it. The blank allowed 29" length. I'm planning on a range test for velocity (not accuracy) using my favorite load of RL19 and 130 TSX. I will cut 1 inch at a time and shoot for velocity and record. When i get to 24", will stop and crown it.

As far as Lilja, i am fortunate to own a 10" twist in 270 WSM that shoots better than my F Class Kreiger with its 9th barrel. I sure wish I could get Mr Lilja to build my F Class barrels.

Not to cross pollinate or hijack the thread, Ron Smith of Torrington has been making gain twist since the 80's. I have had 2. Spent a day at his shop in the 90's seeing him doing it.

My buddy is getting the son to rebore a 6mm barrel to 277 with gain twist to make a 27-284. I am looking forward to seeing the results.

And i dont like to post because of all the hate responses that come back to a guy who shoots around 5000 rounds a year as a competitor.

Have a great summer and good luck to all with your draws.
 
Feenix, i like your style!!

I am a 270 fan. Bought my 1st one at 11 years old. At my peak i had 8. Down to 3 now.

That first one was eventually shot out. 3300 ish rounds.

I rebarreled it. The blank allowed 29" length. I'm planning on a range test for velocity (not accuracy) using my favorite load of RL19 and 130 TSX. I will cut 1 inch at a time and shoot for velocity and record. When i get to 24", will stop and crown it.
At the time, H4831 SC generated the best velocity with 175 Matrix. I got near 3100 FPS, but the group size started to open up, and pressure signs started appearing. So, I settled for 2996 FPS. If I do my part, it is .5-.75 MOA at 966Y. Others were claiming ~100 FPS with RL-26, but I never tried it.
As far as Lilja, i am fortunate to own a 10" twist in 270 WSM that shoots better than my F Class Kreiger with its 9th barrel. I sure wish I could get Mr Lilja to build my F Class barrels.
I have two Lilja barrels (.270 AI 1:8" and .30 LARA 1:9", both 3Gs), and I am getting ready for my next project build. Dan and son Carson are just plain old good people, pretty down-to-earth, and easy to talk to.
 
Is Matrix still in the bullet making business? I used some of the 170's in my 270 many moons ago
 

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