270 Win - 22" vs 24"

[Reverend Mr. Black]

Howdy.

Not one bit of the following is meant to sway your opinion. This is a FWIW post only. Maybe entertaining - maybe informative? Maybe neither or both? I just thought it might (?) merit another discusion.

First, yes, I DID read the 100 Forum posts that said 22" is just fine.....Thank you......next subject please.

HOWEVER - among the many, I also found this post (not mine):

"Over the past years, while using my chrony, someone will get enough nerve to ask if I will chrony their rifle. Once I agree, several others invariably ask. Results? Very few factory loads get within 50-75fps of factory specs. Probably the most common that fall short are the 270, 25-06 with 22" and Remington 7 mag with 24" barrels are as much as 200fps slower. When they see the results, some get mad at me or blame the chrony! The newer 260/6.5s, 708, and 308 with 24" barrels usually get close."

I agree with the above and why my .270 has a 24" barrel. For hunting purposes - advantages of the longer barrel - real or imagined - IMHO - do matter. FPS, trajectory, terminal effectiveness - I'll take every advantege I can get - within reason of course. No need for a 28" barrel.

Will a 22" .270 with 150 gr Partition work on an Elk / Moose? Of course. All day, every day, proven. That said, on an ELK / Moose - every advantage a 24" will give me - Thank You very much, I'll take it for 2 reasons: 1) Each & every external and terminal ballistic advantage the 24" provides and 2) personal confidence.

Of course..........and this is VERY important...........YMMV. :cool:

Ciao.

 

[The Oregonian]

50 fps is pretty meaningless at the end of the day when it comes to whether or not the shot will anchor the animal. If you want every edge for an elk or moose you might think about stepping up to a 30 cal.

 

[Clem Bronkoski]

I toted a Rem 700 with a 22" barrel in 270 Win all over this country any everything I got were 1 shot kills from point blank to over 400 yds. Deer antelope and black bear

 

[K.E.C. Darkside]

I'm still a LONG Barrel guy it's free FPS with no additional powder.

 

[Greatgrandad]

Barrels can vary quite a bit, and it is not uncommon to have 50fps or more variation in the same length barrels/brands. That said, currently, I own both a 22" and 24" in 270W, and with some loads, the 24" will achieve 100fps or so more with the 130gr varieties and 60-80fps more with the 150's.

 

[1stpitch]

Sounds like someone is butthurt.

 

[dogz]

Couple thoughts from Big Sky country....for what it's worth

*first off, there was a day that whatever the factory said that they're rounds did for speed I'd automatically subtract 100 fps. Not anymore, by and large I've found them to track very well with they state the speeds are.

*If anyone truly believes that another 2" of barrel makes this or that round a better elk killer then they truly have zero to little elk killing experience!

*Far as barrel length goes, I long ago quit barreling for speed, I select the length and contour for balance and shootability.

*Number last, I've chopped more than a few barrels of various caliber etc and for a 270ish kind of round like clock one will loose 27-30 fps per inch. If anyone really thinks that the extra 2" aids in killing elk then they're full of horse apples.

Must be a long way until elk season as some of this stuff that's coming up on forums lately is pretty darn lame:)

 

[dogz]

50 fps is pretty meaningless at the end of the day when it comes to whether or not the shot will anchor the animal. If you want every edge for an elk or moose you might think about stepping up to a 30 cal.

And better yet a 338 of some kind:)

 

[Mike Matteson]

26" barrel is my go to length. Presently have some built in longer barrel lengths. 28" lately. Can alway have them cut back or if rechambering is needed.

 

[dogz]

26" barrel is my go to length. Presently have some built in longer barrel lengths. 28" lately. Can alway have them cut back or if rechambering is needed.

I had one Lilja cut to 26" to start with on my G33/40, after a year hunting with it it got the Lorena treatment to 23"........:)

 

[jjmp]

22 to short, 24 getting better, 26 is Grand , yes Long live the 270 wcf & all WildCats,Cheers

 

[ARlife4me]

what the 24 will do that the 22 won't is give that extra distance you may need for the kill!

 

[cabelasken]

I choose calibers that perform well with 24" and under barrels. Last year I had a 26" 280 AI shortened to 22" so when I used a can it wouldn't be excessively long. I was surprised at the velocity I got and expected to lose a lot more. The loss was way less than the 100 FPS I expected to lose. Depending on powder and bullet the loss came to 50-75 FPS for bullet weights 130-150GR. I expect with heavier bullets and/or faster powders the loss would be even less.

 

[ARlife4me]

I choose calibers that perform well with 24" and under barrels. Last year I had a 26" 280 AI shortened to 22" so when I used a can it wouldn't be excessively long. I was surprised at the velocity I got and expected to lose a lot more. The loss was way less than the 100 FPS I expected to lose. Depending on powder and bullet the loss came to 50-75 FPS for bullet weights 130-150GR. I expect with heavier bullets and/or faster powders the loss would be even less.

Gas volume powders produce will help that. That's where slower powders come to play.