30-06 over 308

Hello all as title says I've been thanking about buying a Remington 700 adl in 30-06 to do my first semi custom rifle build and my question is is there really a need for a 30-06 if I already have 2 308s I do have everything but brass to load for a 30-06 but up to 175 grain bullets what can a 30-06 give me over my 308 for whitetailto elk.if I do not buy a 30-06 I will most likely try to find a 300 wm or 300 wsm. Thanks in advance

If you like your 308 wins I don't see the reason for the 30-06. Since you are stuck on 30 cal (do you have any 7mm? That's what I would do) otherwise go magnum.

I assume you reload.... otherwise it doesn't matter on action length, mag length etc...

if going off a Rem 700 action I would not do wsm since it's too short - the SAUM was made for the Rem 700 SA. The Long action does Great, the 300wm is everywhere but I don't like the belt . If custom go 300 PRC, or 30 nos, or go bigger 300 RUM or 300NM.

that will blow the 308 win away! And elk out to 1000yds

need more info on your potential build? I don't like adl, pain to unload. Are you going to get a new barrel? Or just Change stock? Need mag bolt

Okay and yea I love my 308 wins and no I dont have any 7mm or 6.5 caliber I've been looking into 280ai and if I go 300 wsm it will be a savage more than Likely and yes I do reload.and I'm not stuck on a remington 700 action I'm open to any of the 700 style actions.

If your shooting factory ammo out of the 06, it offers very little as it tends to be loaded commercially to lower pressures. Chronographing factory ammo is really an eye opener. I remember some 180 grain winchester loads that were right at 2500fps. Handloading the 06 can be brought to near 300wsm velocities In many rifles with a 24" barrel and modern powders. That shouldn't be a surprise given case capacity. Similarly, many 308s can readily exceed factory 06 loads with careful loading.

And as far as build gos I will be changing stocks for hs and using wyatt extended box and hinge floor plate or wyatt dbm and have action trued and bedded and trigger tech trigger or timney and if funds allow me to change caliber I will probably do a badger recoil lug and a #5 or #6 fluted barrel threaded either hart or bartlin or Krieger any of them in 5r finished 25 inches with brake may consider a remaged as well

SAM, i HAVE OR HAD 308, 30-06, 300 WM, all are good calibers. If were doing the buying or building I would go with the 300WM. Yes the 300 RUM, PRC and whatever's are good also but if you hunt and go into the field or arrive in Timbuktu, or Canada somewhere very rural what happens when you go into the local hardware store and they don't
have any of what you need. Seen it happen. These calibers are always available. Just saying it works for me, may not be for you. Either way good luck with your build.

Tommytrees said:

SAM, i HAVE OR HAD 308, 30-06, 300 WM, all are good calibers. If were doing the buying or building I would go with the 300WM. Yes the 300 RUM, PRC and whatever's are good also but if you hunt and go into the field or arrive in Timbuktu, or Canada somewhere very rural what happens when you go into the local hardware store and they don't
have any of what you need. Seen it happen. These calibers are always available. Just saying it works for me, may not be for you. Either way good luck with your build.

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That's what I'm trying to keep in mind also thanks for your input

280ai is a great cartridge. I am shooting the Berger 175 EH right at 2990 FPS. It's a lot of fun

I agree with the post above the 280AI is a no brainer

Difference between 30-06 and 308 gets bigger with heavier bullets. 175gn and below...not much unless you load them up. 300 Win .Mag. is great for hammering big things at long distance. I believe the 30-06 is better across the board. Easier to find ammo, easier to load ,more versatile, and cheaper to shoot with out hammering your shoulder. You can load down with H4895, or up to max. with some of the great powders and bullets that are now available. You could probably punch out one of the 308s to 30-06 if you wanted. Just my $.02.

Forgot to add, if your 308 actions are long enough.

Sounds like you have a great build plan. I went with a 7 SAUM which is very similar to the 280AI but on a short action. I like shorter rifles so every bit adds up . Look at the BC on the .284 180 eldm! You have to go 225gr in 30 cal to Beat it. Very efficient cartridge and will extend your range way past the 308!

I've never "lost" ammo and had to run to a local hardware store to buy some. Would not worry about that at all. Bring a back up 308 if you are worried.

SamuelBerryhill308 said:

That's what I'm trying to keep in mind also thanks for your input

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Sam, meant to say you got there but your ammo didn't, then what happens . Sorry, LOL

Tommytrees said:

Sam, meant to say you got there but your ammo didn't, then what happens . Sorry, LOL

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Yes sir I understand what you mean