Beware!!! SRS knock-offs floating around

[ntsqd]

When it is an improved or superior product design then I'll look at it. When it is a clone then it's just greed on the part of the mfg or seller and I've no interest in lining their pockets.

The problem with a patent is that no one but the patent owner can enforce it. The Gov't will only say "They did it first and like this" and nothing more. Defending a patent can run into some very large numbers in litigation. I know of a local small company that went broke defending a trademark that another, much larger French company wanted. Word got out and no one in that sport would buy the French product, but the ignorant masses thought it was the same product.

 

[FEENIX]

This would be great time for JA to respond here. Especially since the business frequently posts on LRHF.
otherwise many of us are going to form our own conclusion, and rightfully so.

I respectfully disagree; they need to settle this offline in a civil manner, on their own, not us. People have formed their opinions already. I am in no way taking sides, but with all of the posts, it is inconclusive for me to make a sound decision. Also, JA has moved forward as per post #21 with a public service announcement.

 

[liv4thehunt]

It's called business kids. Should GM stop making trucks because Ford made one first. In the America I grew up in you didn't make it if you were not always trying to better your competition. It troubles me that one side has turned this into a high school breakup, and the other just said I'm moving on. If you like a Ford drive a Ford and if you like a GMC drive a GMC. Every gun builder on this planet has accused another of stealing his idea. Make a good affordable product, and you won't have to cry about your girlfriend leaving you for another guy.

 

[Phil Rizzo]

If a product is marketed or labeled as authentic, and priced as authentic, it should be authentic.
I do not mind paying the higher price to someone that did R&D, testing etc to develop a high quality product and get it to market.
I'm not a charity organization so I do NOT want to pay the copier/knock-off SOB's for quality that probably doesn't exist. If at all possible.
That's Me. And I suspect some others share that.
Anybody can take chances however they wish. Best of luck

 

[Willys]

Thats why you focus on marketing your brand not just product - Terminator, Fat Bastarrd are examples. SRS just renamed theirs, so lil brand value yet. you don't need a patent to protect your name. If knock off starts marketing theirs as the "Original Ti-Tanic Brake" or other memorable name they may thrive. I hate knockoffs!

 

[huntinfool18]

So SRS is the only person who can sell and manufacture muzzle brakes and rails? Last time I checked this is a free country and businesses can do and sell what they please. Take a quick look around the web, you will see several brakes and rails that are very similar to SRS.
I've got SRS brakes and rails on all of my rifles so I fully support him but unless he has patients and all the legal stuff all he's doing is creating a bunch of unnecessary internet drama. Even then I see enough small differences there's not a darn thing he can do about it but cut ties and move on with your life.

 

[rawsk]

Love the SRS rails for arca and picatinny. But I have ordered direct from you and got the package very quickly. If someone is making something the same or similar that is one thing. If they are using SRS name to sell then that is wrong. Do not know if your name or product names have copyright protection.

 

[FEENIX]

If a product is marketed or labeled as authentic, and priced as authentic, it should be authentic.
I do not mind paying the higher price to someone that did R&D, testing etc to develop a high quality product and get it to market.
I'm not a charity organization so I do NOT want to pay the copier/knock-off SOB's for quality that probably doesn't exist. If at all possible.
That's Me. And I suspect some others share that.
Anybody can take chances however they wish. Best of luck

Again, at this point it is hearsay.

 

[chutinlead]

Let the products stand on their own feet. I know SRS builds their ARCA rails to RRS spec, not sure about JA. It also looks like the JA ones aren't machined as thin so to meet the same weight they might be using 6061 vs the 7075 that SRS uses. If JA were to do something novel like put a QD cup machined into the rail somehow, then I would call it innovation.

Otherwise, I'll keep recommending SRS for rails because I believe they are better made and I know they work.

 

[C-130 Dude]

We recently had one of our resellers blatantly knock off our muzzle brakes, hunters rail, and arca+pic rail. You'll probably see them advertised on here.

Just know these are NOT Salmon River Solutions products. We are NOT manufacturing them. We do NOT endorse them at all and cut ties with the company.

See photo below.View attachment 483106

Time to call your attorney and get a cease and desist letter sent immediately! Might have to play hardball.

 

[Willys]

Time to call your attorney and get a cease and desist letter sent immediately! Might have to play hardball.

If they were doing anything illegal Im sure that would of already happened. Unethical and illegal are two different things.

 

[Mark37082]

Again, at this point it is hearsay.

Words of wisdom. Let the businesses work this out. JA Outdoors expressly relayed they have made the change in suppliers. SRS took a shot across the bow and played the revenge card. This has done nothing but caused division in this great forum.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Words of wisdom. Let the businesses work this out. JA Outdoors expressly relayed they have made the change in suppliers. SRS took a shot across the bow and played the revenge card. This has done nothing but caused division in this great forum.

I agree.

There are just too many questions at this point and without everyone involved airing it out and going back and forth on here, it's probably impossible to answer all those questions to truly understand if there's an at fault party.

Think about all the components of a gun…a trigger for example. There are dozens of trigger makers making almost the exact same trigger with minor differences. Someone obviously made that design first.

I'd really have an issue if ja advertised the product as an SRS if it's not, but beyond that, I'd have to know a lot more details that we'll never know, so I'll hold my judgment.

 

[DoneNOut]

I've yet to see evidence that JA sold branded SRS products. As mentioned already. Hearsay and revenge is all I see so far. If I were so adamant about the issue, I would have the sand to identify the offender for one, and two provide the evidence. Past that it's the OP just hand wringing.

And god forbid a sponsor be bashed on this forum…