which would you choose a Tangent Theta or Scmidt & Bender for for a long range and hunting scope.

[eoperator]

I have a tt hunter moa never mounted I would sell. Bought it to put on a build that is long overdue, in the mean time I've been switching over to mil if anyone is interested.

 

[WildBillG]

That is a great scope I am sure you will find a buyer no problem. They are lighter than the 5-25x56 model and were made for hunting rifles. Basically from what I have read a lighter version of the 5-25x56.

 

[Wedgy]

I only see Mil, no MOA. Do they have one in MOA?

Looks like they have the 5-27x in MOA

Zero Compromise Optic: ZC527 5-27x56 FFP, MOA

The Zero Compromise Optic ZC527 is the ultimate solution for all your target engagement requirements. 5-27X magnification.

www.milehighshooting.com

 

[badthirtyone]

Looks like they have the 5-27x in MOA

Zero Compromise Optic: ZC527 5-27x56 FFP, MOA

The Zero Compromise Optic ZC527 is the ultimate solution for all your target engagement requirements. 5-27X magnification.

www.milehighshooting.com

Again, they are releasing the MOA this year. I spoke to ZCO a couple of months ago, and have been keeping pretty close tabs on this.

I can't commit to a date for the release, but it is coming in the 4-20 mag range.

It's not available quite yet. I'm hoping to have one of the 4-20's in my hands soooon!

 

[eoperator]

I have a zco 420 mil it is very impressive but thick and meaty to put on a hunting rifle meant to be carried alot.

 

[WildBillG]

Out of curiosity how do the March scopes compare with the ZCO,TT and S&B. Are they in the same class or not.

 

[Wedgy]

With the 10x zoom of the March they can't hold up with the optical qualities of the 5x zoom in the others.

 

[WildBillG]

The March prices say they are as good or better than the rest of them.

 

[sp6x6]

Mine is not. Optics equal my Mark 4,my mark 5 is much clearer 20-25x

 

[Wedgy]

None of my Marches are as clear above 20x
Also there is only one S&B dealer in the US if you are still considering one, Eurooptic/Scopelist(same company).

 

[Euler]

FYI, 2022 price list for S&B's is laughable. In a sad kind of way. S&B was already starting to price themselves out of the market, and I think this seals the deal, at least for me. For these prices, a ZComp or Tangent Theta is the clear choice. Better scope for less money, yes please.

Now if you are looking on the secondary market, that's a whole different ballgame as you can still find used PM II's in the mid two thousand range.

 

[orkan]

Yeah, S&B has lost the plot, as is so common among European companies.

 

[Greyfox]

FYI, 2022 price list for S&B's is laughable. In a sad kind of way. S&B was already starting to price themselves out of the market, and I think this seals the deal, at least for me. For these prices, a ZComp or Tangent Theta is the clear choice. Better scope for less money, yes please.

Now if you are looking on the secondary market, that's a whole different ballgame as you can still find used PM II's in the mid two thousand range.

I agree, the S&B's have gone off the chart with pricing. I bought my S&B when they were more reasonably priced. I do think the TT's and ZCO's will take a lot of share out of S&B's hide as. Recently chose the ZCO. The true difference between the TT and ZCO in terms of reliability/function won't be really be known for another 10 years before we will see if they actually stand up to the same rigors that the S&B has. IMO.

 

[orkan]

I do think the TT's and ZCO's will take a lot of share out of S&B's hide

That's been going on for 8 years. No one I know that shoots seriously is running a S&B right now, unless its a backup rifle or some rifle they don't take super seriously.

TT and ZCO in terms of reliability/function won't be really be known for another 10 years before we will see if they actually stand up to the same rigors that the S&B has. IMO.

We must run in different circles. S&B's were crapping out with regularity, while TT's are a sure thing and have been for nearly a decade. ZCO is the new kid with something to prove, and they are doing a good job of it.