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It appears that hunters and bench-rest shooters don't get along after reading this thread. LoL!!! This form is for everyone to share their opinions and advise. I think we are all here because we all enjoy shooting and like to share our knowledge and experience. That being said, I have learned many things from this sight, some good, some bad. I'm on this site because it is a long range HUNTING forum. If I wanted to know something about bench-rest shooting then I would go to that site. If I wanted to better my knowledge with 3-GUN then I would go to that site. If I wanted to know more about my 440 Magnum under the hood of my 1970 Dodge Challenger than I would go see Nick from Nicks Garage. If you own a classic Mopar than you know exactly who I'm talking about. Don't go to Gordon Ramsay's house and tell him how to cook. Don't come to a long range hunting site and tell us how to hunt If you are a bench-rest shooter. I try to get along with everyone, sometimes its difficult. I'm sure this will offend some people but that is not my objective. If you are not finding the answers you are looking for then you are probably looking in the wrong place. Hope everyone finds what they are looking for.
 
FEENIX said:
L😇L! I could be wrong but I do not think that's what @Grizzly60 meant.
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Mr Feenix. I have a question sir. On your profile it has you as a " LRH Team Meamber " how did you come about that? Do you work for Best Of The West? Did you buy a rifle from them? I'm just curious. I've seen a few people on here with that status but not many. I was just wondering.
 
Stgraves260 said:
Mr Feenix. I have a question sir. On your profile it has you as a " LRH Team Meamber " how did you come about that? Do you work for Best Of The West? Did you buy a rifle from them? I'm just curious. I've seen a few people on here with that status but not many. I was just wondering.
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You pay LRH to get that title...it's like a subscription so you don't get any ads. There's a few other perks too I think.
 
greenejc said:
My elder brother, who was a professor at Texas Tech, made the 25 yard pistol shot(s) from my youngest brother's pickup. We were in the bed and had been shooting prairie dogs down at Pecos, Texas. We were carrying .44 S&W M29's with 4" barrels so if we saw a feral hog we could shoot it. Driving back, a jackrabbit ran across the turnrow. We both drew, but Bob was faster by about a hair, and shot as I was just starting my trigger pull. He shot as my youngest brother was hitting the brakes, and hit the rabbit. I thought what a lucky shot. Then 4 minutes later, another jackrabbit, another draw, another shot while braking and another hit. The running P-dog was done on that ranch by him while I was getting ready to shoot with a Ruger M77 in 6mm Rem. I was shooting them out to about 350yds that day, but the wind was around 5 to 7mph, so easy peasy. I still have both rifles. Your coyote was a great shot, and no accident. The 100 yard shot was me, with a Smith M29-2 with 6 1/2" barrel, and done on the farm we lived on near Ralls. There were four of us and we were all using pistols. We killed four or five rabbits for the dogs, most running. We shot rabbits from tractors while cultivating and planting, too. The dogs got fed good. We missed a lot, but we got to where we hit a lot, too. We used pistols for that, too. Rifles don't fit well in the cab of a tractor.
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You have to be careful where you tell stories like that or folks will give you the "stink eye".

My GGF, a former federal marshal once threw a vienna sausage can in the air and hit it six consecutive times before it hit the ground using his "work gun" a very early model .38sp so I'm certainly not among them

He fed his family with that pistol through the depression shooting mostly jackrabbits, living off of a sixty dollar a month salary and bounties cleaning up the badlands of NM/OK/W TX around the turn of the century through about 1940.

I've seen much better men than myself do things with a handgun I'd have sworn were impossible had I not seen it myself.

When I was 13 we were antelope hunting and i was driving around the ranch with the owner's son a year younger when he hung a pistol out the window bouncing down the road at 30mph and shot an antelope dead nuts through the head at about 40 yards.

To them it wasn't; hunting, it was just a week's worth of meat for a family of 7so I certainly wasn't going to say anything.

Needless to say I find your tale entirely believable.
 
Alibiiv said:
I think that what you have written here is correct; however.......I also believe that there are times where circumstances do not warrant wasting one's time. Twenty-two years ago, at the age of fifty-three, I had two heart attacks. After that second heart attack I had an entirely different view of life and I was determined to remove all of the stressful things that were in my life. These stressors included the people who were rude or just uncomplimentary or simply sapping the life out of me. From that time on I removed all of the "butt-holes" (<<<--being kind here ) in my life, got out of a dead marriage and changed the environment surrounding my life. I can relate to having strong opinions, and totally agree with what you have written here about gentle corrections; however, at seventy-five years of age I feel that I no longer have the time nor the energy to allow someone to verbally attack another person to "prove" just how right they are over another. There are a few members who I follow on this forum, included in these members are FEENIX as well as yourself and a few others who will see me pop up with an opinion or a simple "👍" to a reply. As I previously wrote, if one does not like what they are reading simply go on to read another post. Again I thank you for the reply.
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Entirely understandable but this is Len's house so I'm trying to be kind.
 
greenejc said:
Of course I do. So does anyone else, and inside about 600 yards, its nearly the same windage for the higher BC as it is for the lower, even at the same MV. A deer and a man have about the same kill zone. The front of the chest to the back of the chest and back to bottom of chest on a deer or the top of chest(neck) to lower chest and shoulder width on a man are about 18". So a hit inside a 15" circle kills. The target can't tell that the bullet drifted or dropped two or three inches more than planned due to poor BC. Its still dead or down. And I don't mostly shoot the 'high BC' bullets. I'm quite happy with Speer, Hornaday, Sierra and Nosler. If the Corelokt was still cheap, I'd be using that for practice. As for windage, I use a Shepherd scope and dial the reticule over, while using the stadia line for elevation. I can hit consistently at distances out to 900 and 1,000 yards with it, and practice at distance when I can find a place to do so. I've been shooting for about 55 years, both in and out of the army and in Eastern Europe, the Far East and the Near East, along with the Mid-West and the High Plains with rifles and pistols of various calibers and teaching both basic and advanced marksmanship to soldiers and civilians for around 35 years or so. I know most of the Sniper Training and Employment manual by heart. Carlos Hathcock, Chris Kyle and Billy Dixon are my heroes. I had to study max ords, be able to construct range fans for improvised ranges in the field (Saudi and other places) and know how far a Bradley or tank round would go if fired by accident at a certain elevation, how far to figure a danger zone for small arms, including the .50 Cal. MG, and what the max ord was because of possible overflights by aircraft. I use a range finder in canyon country like Crawford because distances there are deceptive, but I don't require it, because I've been doing this in rough terrain for a very long time, and have expended a couple of hundred thousand rounds of both mine and the Army's ammunition at targets both inanimate and living. I did it for a living. I also did it to stay alive. You get good and maybe really lucky when the alternative is getting dead. I didn't get dead, or wounded and I didn't lose any men. My youngest brother got dinged a couple times, but he was in the stuff more than me, and ran with the funny green hat guys. He has four boy scout badges from them, including medic, explosives and sniper. Back to your question: I practice in the wind, usually with a spotter, and learn both actual drop and wind drift by actually shooting the rifle/load/bullet combination until I can hit at a given distance. I don't guess when I can shoot under real world conditions, both at the range and in the field. I don't worry about BC on paper. I shoot the round and see what the drop/drift is at the altitude and wind conditions where I'm hunting. I find out what the 'beaten area' of the load is at distance, and determine if it is small enough to give a better than 90% hit in the 12" kill zone on my target at the distance I'm going to shoot. I minimize my guess work. I learned to do that a very long time ago, and it kept me alive because it let me be accurate when it was real. I shoot hundreds of practice rounds at small targets at distance for every round I launch at game.
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Please my friend, use paragraphing. A huge solid wall of text is really hard to get through and hard on the eyes.
 
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asd9055 said:
20 pages of arguments about a product yet to be on the market. It tells me one thing, some people are threatened. Funny thing, its not the makers of competitive products but the users.
Glad I went to bed.
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People often feel the need to justify their own personal choices when others mention there are other choices avaialable.

It's like the "Ford, Chevy, Dodge" arguments back in HS or the, "Which is better, a Model 70 CRF or model 700 push feed".

Unfortunately they seem unavoidable.
 
WildRose said:
People often feel the need to justify their own personal choices when others mention there are other choices avaialable.

It's like the "Ford, Chevy, Dodge" arguments back in HS or the, "Which is better, a Model 70 CRF or model 700 push feed".

Unfortunately they seem unavoidable.
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Definitely a Ford and definitely a M70 CRF for me, and WBY MKV. S&W revolvers because I could afford them and and SIG pistols because my life depends on them....but like you said...personal choices....beauty is...we have the freedom to choose
 

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