What is better than the Weatherby?

[FEENIX]

As others noted, "better" is a relative and subjective term. My .30 LARA custom rifle came about during the height of the .300 RUM brass shortage.

Below is a picture of .30 LARA with 220 ELD-X next to a factory .300 WBTY 180 SP. I pre-form brass with my hydraulic forming die using 8MM RM, .375 H&H, 7MM STW, .358 STA, 416 RM, .300 H&H (most challenging), and worst-case scenario, and I can shoot factory ammo, .300 WBTY and .300 Jarrett (very pricey). This would be my max .30 cal and would step up to the big .33 cal mags "if" I need more oomph.

 

[Ranger Rick]

Out to 600yards a .308 shooting 180's is as effective as a 300 WBY shooting 210's.

Now if we are talking a true long range hunting rifle (to me means 1K or more) I would go with a 28 Nosler shooting 195 Bergers, that combo would be hard to beat for a hunting rifle.

My issue with the 300 WBY or any of the big 30.'s is, if your going to put up with those huge muzzle blasts/ recoil why not just go with a big .338 like the RUM, Edge, Lapua, and all. I don't like either anymore (I've owned about all of them), thus I don't shoot anything bigger than a 7WSM that gets me to an easily effect 1K gun. Just IMO.

As others noted, "better" is a relative and subjective term. My .30 LARA custom rifle came about during the height of the .300 RUM brass shortage.

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Below is a picture of .30 LARA with 220 ELD-X next to a factory .300 WBTY 180 SP. I pre-form brass with my hydraulic forming die using 8MM RM, .375 H&H, 7MM STW, .358 STA, 416 RM, .300 H&H (most challenging), and worst-case scenario, and I can shoot factory ammo, .300 WBTY and .300 Jarrett (very pricey). This would be my max .30 cal and would step up to the big .33 cal mags "if" I need more oomph.

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Bravo my friend, great reloading adjustment to the shortage of brass.

 

[beretzs]

You could even shoot the 7mm Mashburn, splitting the difference, and fire it at everyting.

There might be a couple of us that roll that way!

I have always called it my mini 300 Wby. The Mash flings 175's the same speed the Wby does 200's. Works good for me. Little less bump too.

 

[FEENIX]

Bravo my friend, great reloading adjustment to the shortage of brass.

Thank you, Sir!

 

[Harold Barrows]

Sounds nice with that wood stock. Is it walnut or laminated?

It's walnut.

 

[Silent Hammer]

You state "it is a personal decision" which magnum .30 cal to choose and you are right. That is why I asked everybody to state his opinion. For me the cost of brass is important. Also the .300 Weatherby round is well understood, having been loaded now for 77 years. The chamber, freebore, seating depth, magazine length - all of those things are now common knowledge so there is no need for the handloader to guess about anything. It already has all been worked out. The only problem with the .300 Weatherby is that it probably kicks too hard to be considered reasonably easy to shoot.

 

[Silent Hammer]

Yeah, I know which big 30 is the king.
If you have to burn more than 60 grains of powder it's more than needed.
You guys are responsible for the powder shortage!
Like had been said if you want a step up from 06, go to a 33 or 375.
Can't wait till everyone starts the 7.6 Creedmore rage again

 

[Montucky Roamer]

There's nothing better than seeing my kids shooting these souped up Weatherby's at their age. Zayne and Zaylea were 14 when they received their rifles. 14 year olds shooting guns that most grown men couldn't handle. Then there's Zandyr. 11 years old shooting a improved 300 Weatherby that holds 112 grains.

If a 14 year old young man can shoot consistent groups at close to a mile with a 378 Weatherby improved, 14 year old young lady can shoot trophy after trophy with a 340 Weatherby improved, and an 11 year old young man can consistently group at 1k with a 300 Weatherby improved, that leaves no reason for anyone to frown away from any Weatherby caliber due to recoil.

Unless you like a lightweight rifle and hate muzzle brakes. Carrying it up and down 10 plus miles a day in the mountains fighting alders ,devil's club and slush. Then things get balanced out a bit. I do like brakes myself tho...but I do feel handicapped when tracking a bull in thicker timber where a shot may be quick. I won't pull the trigger without ear pro for sure .....all this to say, different tools for different uses

 

[VLD Pilot]

I have a love hate relationship with brakes also. Without them, big magnums wouldn't be so popular

 

[Deleted member 115374]

I can say, the 300wby left's real bad taste in my mouth in recoil alone. I worked a load for my cousin's (no brake)vanguard and managed sub moa managing my "flinch" and accepting the inevitable.
That being said I just bought a Bobby Hart rifle in the "30Hart" a wby wildcat with a helical brake and a bit of weight to it. The thing shoots like a dream. I shot Bobby's personal rifle at a long range class in Northern PA and was impressed w/ its performance side by side w/ my buddy's MarkV.
My biggest challenge now as stated before is brass, the shop charges $2 each for fire formed.

I have slow-mo footage another friend of mine took through my spotting scope at 600yds on steel that's pretty awesome too

Yes, that has been my experience wIth WBY's in the 7mm and up, I only own one, a 240. I have reloaded others up to 340 and 30-378. Working up the loads required bench testing and zeroing the rifles. Unpleasant experiences, this was before I bought a lead-sled, the guys that I were loading for eventually got rid of them or they sit in their safes.

 

[Deleted member 115374]

300 WBY is like the old man that can still get the job done.
The young buck with the new methods is like the 300 PRC....optimized for the long heavies.

I would say that comment applies to the 300 Win Mag just as much if not more. I have never heard of the Armed Forces adopting a single WBY caliber for military use. However there are a few sniper rifles out there in 308,30-06,300 Win Mag.

 

[Swamplord]

Ackley Improved 300 Winchester Magnum?

a whopping 1.2 gr grains of h20 "improvement" .... and that's with the "Ackley" 40 degree shoulder angle and 10 thou case taper

 

[Swamplord]

Sitting here sizing, deburring & chamfering 100 pcs of brand new 30-378 Wby brass so I can load them up for a friends rifle, as I read the entire thread, lots of opinions , some make sense, some goofy and others are plain nuts, like the 7mm is better than 30 cal bs, lol,,,,, NOT & never, where do you come up with this stuff ? lmao

The recoil shy guys are inadvertently exposing their own weakness publicly and not the cartridges faults .........

Have the 300 Wby, 340 Wby and 30-378 Wby ... out of those three I prefer the 340 Wby , why ? because I have it in an original super sexy Sako TRGS m995 and it does everything the super glamorous 338 Lapua can and the 338 RUM

out of all the 30 cals on the planet the 7.82 Warbird is the KING and has not been dethroned ..... Lots of haters on that one but with the advent of all these high bc 30 cal heavies... it makes the most sense, can build it on the Rem 700 and make the high bc bullets fly like they should ... fast

have three 300 Win Mags but feel this current shortage of ammo/components would be a good time for manufacturers to make it finally go obsolete and just make more 300 WSM ammo, everybody wins.......

screw the 300 PRC , nuff said

Out of all the factory 30's the 300 RUM is the best of the bunch, and I'm talking sheer performance here and not the fluffy bs some drag up, fluff like recoil, can buy ammo in eskimo village, snipers used it 700 years ago, eleventy million deer kills with 30-30 in America ..... etc, etc....

Long Range Hunting requires high velocity, high bc bullets and a highly trained monkey... everything else is fluff (read -bs)

 

[Ranger Rick]

My goodness swamp lord, has the number 7 ever pushed you into a whirlpool of cynicism. The truth is that both the .284* and .300 calibers are effective and terrific calibers (and many would agree that the .270 could be included. Oops, I used a 7. If you prefer, let's call it a 6.8mm).
Ponder these "sensible" comparisons: 7mm-08 vs .308; 6.8mm vs 30-06; and 7mm REM mag vs 300 win mag. The verifiable ballistics data proves that the 7s do work very well.
Plus there are several well-written articles on 7's and .30s that finish with the same conclusion: both calibers are fantastic! I'm not sure why you passed judgment on the 300 PRC in such a degrading way: "screw the 300PRC." That standard does nothing for the 300 win mag as its ballistics prove that the 300 win mag comes in 2nd when compared head-to-head to 300PRC.
Your rambling paragraphs managed to have some good stuff as you herald the one and only 340 Wby, but as sure as Alaska has swamp, you find a way to put down the 338 Lapua and the 338 RUM.
But behold, the one and only 340 Wby king has fallen to its knees, being soundly defeated by almighty "The 7.82 Warbird." "Holy Zoom, Zoom, Batman, that was a 7.82 Warbird!" Chirped Robin.
Swamplord, you wisely, but by accident no less, finally wrapped up your sarcasm and disdain for the 7mm by declaring to the masses that the 300 RUM is the Warbird's prince and the best of the factory bunch.
Closing out your masterpiece, you recklessly toss around your f-word: fluff. Your broad use of the word fluff conjures up despair and "-bs" to your readers.
Here's something to think about - everyone has a right to have his own opinion, and with all the chaos in today's world, don't you agree that it's better to be encouraging or silent instead of tossing out criticism and dogmatic criticism when someone shares his opinion?
Have a great weekend up in the beautiful state of Alaska