100percent
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Anyone running the Berger 90 VLD?
Speeding up the 224 heavies?
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del2les
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I've used them at 1,000 and 1 mile, but haven't shot game with them...yet.
65WSM
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I have some experience shooting gophers with 77 gr Sierra Tipped MatchKings from an 8 twist barrel at 3400 fps. Nitrocarburized barrel and HBN coated bullets. The bullets grouped reliably out to 400 yards off the bench but were all over the place at 550 yards (the end of our range). Then Hornady came out with their radar data showing the tips melted on the way to the target. I had a similar story with 55 gr Ballistic Tips. I still have hundreds of AMax bullets with the melting tips Hornady warned us about. I still shoot the 77gr TMKs but with the Valkyrie at much lower velocity. What I am trying to say is that some bullet tips will melt at extreme velocity and accuracy will suffer. Having a couple of rifles chambered for wind resistant cartridges can save a trip. Choose your bullets carefully.
Photo is of a 6.5X47 Lapua necked down to .224 and blown out to 40 degrees it has Swift volume Small rifle primer. 80gr Sierra HPMKs shown. Reloader 17 would get you to 3400 fps when I was satisfied. That barrel is toast. Sightron 10-50 X 60 for 500 yard shots.
Photo is of a 6.5X47 Lapua necked down to .224 and blown out to 40 degrees it has Swift volume Small rifle primer. 80gr Sierra HPMKs shown. Reloader 17 would get you to 3400 fps when I was satisfied. That barrel is toast. Sightron 10-50 X 60 for 500 yard shots.
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65WSM
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I use Quickload to choose powders and 2000MR, that was developed by the same Nitrocheme chemist that developed Reloader 17 is a tremendously efficient powder for heavies in 22 caliber.
Bruce Treloar
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I have a friend who shoots the heaviest Sierra 224's from a 22.250 Ackley improved. Can't remember the twist and velocity but 1 in 8 is fuzzy in my memory. Great accuracy and puts 7 foot Roo's down at extended ranges.We always need a new toy, right?
Debating a 224 caliber build to run 80-90gr bullets above 3300. Thinking but, not limited to Swift, 22/284 or 22 Cheetah with fast twist 24-26" barrel. There are some who say this is impossible due to constraints of caliber/bullet length/twist ratios. The contention is that if you get a twist suitable to stabilize the bullet length, it works against velocity (<3100) and/or bullet integrity will go to pieces due to hyper-twist above 3100.
I definitely see the logic of these constraints but, i have yet to find a guy who has actually experienced these limitations.
I know several of you guys have experience in this department? is it possible to accurately run the heavies above 3300? What say you?
Note: they make barrels everyday—-barrel life not a concern!!!
There's a local farmer lady who gets me to cull beef when they get dangerous to be around. I use a 224 PPC with 52 gn hand made bullets out to 300 yards and those head shot full grown Hereford steers just die before they hit the ground. I'd go ahead and build one on the Creedmoor and use the small rifle primer case. You only live once.
65WSM
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From a 26 or 28 inch barrel I don't think you will gain much by exceeding the Swift, Creedmore, .22-250 Ackley with powder volumes in the low forties. We have much more efficient powders than a .284 or '06 case full of IMR 4831 or H870. Test on Quickload. Reloader 17 will be hard to beat for velocity.
Not to be out done lol! Just want to share also. Mind you...Rem 700 ADL action, factory adj. trigger, 26" Hart m/hvy barrel, 1-8tw. Picture of loaded round was a dummy round with a 75 grain Hornady. Targets are all 80 gr smk's. I tried 90gr'ers a couple times, no where near as good. Factory 2-3 times fired brass, 210 M primer. FL sized and seated, nothing else. I got $650 in the gun sans scope. Most accurate rifle I own. I did chrono, with 38.5 gr of IMR4831, 3255 fps ave. with low ES. Good luck with whatever you decide! You got good choices!
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Aoudad 101
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Flatbow
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What's up with the triggers?
Man you guys got me thinking about starting a 22-creed build.
Man you guys got me thinking about starting a 22-creed build.
100percent
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Nice rig and neat cartridge! Thanks for the tips! Never thought about the 6.5x47 case but, that will certainly workout!
100percent
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Would certainly consider others but, that bullet is what I had in mind for this Project.
Andrew Massi
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The boring answer really is the 22 creed. Great brass from adg and peterson
I'm a convert from 22-6mm and 22-250ai. It's easier on barrels, no fire forming, no trimming or neck turning just some loaf and shoot fun
I'm shooting a 1:7 and 88 eld-m.
I'm a convert from 22-6mm and 22-250ai. It's easier on barrels, no fire forming, no trimming or neck turning just some loaf and shoot fun
I'm shooting a 1:7 and 88 eld-m.
Flatbow
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I'm ok with the KISS method. I already spend enough time at the reloading bench. 
What velocities are you getting with the 88 ELDm.
Heck I would even consider a factory riffle in 22 creed if there is a good one that chambers the heavies!
What velocities are you getting with the 88 ELDm.
Heck I would even consider a factory riffle in 22 creed if there is a good one that chambers the heavies!
Aoudad 101
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Psi,and blown primers
