ms delta
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I put a McMillan game warden on my rem. bartlin barrel STW. palm swell is a little to thick for me. I heard that greybo was nice and has a smaller price tag . the 8.5 twist loves the 160 and 175 sierra gk deer no so much....
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kyshooter74
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Anyone looking I have around 130 or so new 8mm mag brass for sale. Rp headstamp.
I'm new to this thread but have tried to read though the last 20 pages or so, seems like a great group with lots of experience.
I'm trying to decide on which bullet or bullets to go with for one of my STWs. I now have two nice STWs, the newest addition is a used McWhorter built on a Defiance action with a Brux 8 twist #5 barrel in a Game Warden stock and and I'm shooting the 195s in it. My original STW is a Collier Rifles Rem 700 with a #3 Bartlein 8.7" twist with a McMillan HTG stock, this rifle is pretty light weight and is more of my every day, go-to deer rifle. I am shooting and having good results with the 180 VLDs and retumbo in this gun, but now that I have the other gun shooting 195s, I figured I might go for some lighter, faster bullets in this one.
I'm thinking about trying the 168 VLDs, but also considering stuff in the 150 range and looking for any good opinions and experience. I'm mostly shooting deer and hogs in Georgia up to 500 yards, if I'm lucky. I tried some 140 Accubonds last year, they shot great but the gun was 0/3 on does and 3/3 on hogs with them. The shots on the does might not have been perfect but I still expected to find them. I also have some neighbors shooting 140 Accubonds in their STWs and I've heard bad reports on blood trails and recoveries. I think they are just zipping through the deer and not causing enough damage. I know any of the bullets will kill quickly with a well placed shot, but I'm looking for one that is more forgiving for a marginal shot. Maybe the VLD, ABLR, TTSX, LRX, Sierra Gamechanger, Partition, etc.
Thanks
Sam
I'm trying to decide on which bullet or bullets to go with for one of my STWs. I now have two nice STWs, the newest addition is a used McWhorter built on a Defiance action with a Brux 8 twist #5 barrel in a Game Warden stock and and I'm shooting the 195s in it. My original STW is a Collier Rifles Rem 700 with a #3 Bartlein 8.7" twist with a McMillan HTG stock, this rifle is pretty light weight and is more of my every day, go-to deer rifle. I am shooting and having good results with the 180 VLDs and retumbo in this gun, but now that I have the other gun shooting 195s, I figured I might go for some lighter, faster bullets in this one.
I'm thinking about trying the 168 VLDs, but also considering stuff in the 150 range and looking for any good opinions and experience. I'm mostly shooting deer and hogs in Georgia up to 500 yards, if I'm lucky. I tried some 140 Accubonds last year, they shot great but the gun was 0/3 on does and 3/3 on hogs with them. The shots on the does might not have been perfect but I still expected to find them. I also have some neighbors shooting 140 Accubonds in their STWs and I've heard bad reports on blood trails and recoveries. I think they are just zipping through the deer and not causing enough damage. I know any of the bullets will kill quickly with a well placed shot, but I'm looking for one that is more forgiving for a marginal shot. Maybe the VLD, ABLR, TTSX, LRX, Sierra Gamechanger, Partition, etc.
Thanks
Sam
woodnut
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Like you, I first tried the 140 Accubond and was disappointed. Then I went to the 150 Swift Sirroco and all deer shot, up to 300 yds. were DRT. Accuracy was excellent too. Recoil was lower and shooting suppressed was a game changer! Did not run them real hot, about 3100.
The nosler partitions wont let you down. They shot a 4" group @ 500 to, so not bad for a flat base.
I have good luck with the accubonds in my 280 rem but going a bit slower than stw.
kyshooter74
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It's not so much zipping through. They are imploding on impact at the stw velocities. The 150's seem to make all the difference in the world with them. I would do as above and look at the sirroco's.
woodnut
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kyshooter74 may be on to something regarding the imploding on impact. But, whatever the reason, the accubonds don't give anywhere near the DRT performance as the Swift Sirroco's 150s!! They are expensive, so I shoot other less expensive bullets to work up loads, testing. Then a couple Swifts for confirmation. Shooting animals: I want the best and the Swift 150 gr. Scirocco meets that requirement in my 7 STW.
Thanks.
I shot 2 does with the 140 AB, both were in very low light so the shots could have been off a little. One I trailed blood for about 200 yards before it crossed the property line into some really thick stuff. The other one I blood trailed for over 500 yards and lost it. Both were about 150-200 yard shots. My friend shot the 3rd doe with it and we never found much blood. But I shot 3 consecutive hogs with it at 350 yards and each one dropped, no matter where I hit it.
The 150 TTSX shot great for me, I only shot one deer with it at about 200 and DRT, but it was shot in the base of the neck. I just worry that the barnes won't expand enough or leave a big hole on a liver shot too far back.
I have a box of 150 sciroccos, might give them a try. Also thinking about the 168 VLD or the 162 ELDM
I shot 2 does with the 140 AB, both were in very low light so the shots could have been off a little. One I trailed blood for about 200 yards before it crossed the property line into some really thick stuff. The other one I blood trailed for over 500 yards and lost it. Both were about 150-200 yard shots. My friend shot the 3rd doe with it and we never found much blood. But I shot 3 consecutive hogs with it at 350 yards and each one dropped, no matter where I hit it.
The 150 TTSX shot great for me, I only shot one deer with it at about 200 and DRT, but it was shot in the base of the neck. I just worry that the barnes won't expand enough or leave a big hole on a liver shot too far back.
I have a box of 150 sciroccos, might give them a try. Also thinking about the 168 VLD or the 162 ELDM
woodnut
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Practice, etc. with other 150s. Then game hunt with the 150 Swift Scirccos. You wont be sorry!
What's your experience with seating depth for the 150 sciroccos? I shot them some through my old barrel and they didn't group well so I didn't spend much time with them
woodnut
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Each barrel/ rifle is a law unto itself. Mine had them seated as far out as the magazine would allow. I used RL19 too.
Well I just found that Nosler has a good sale on the Nosler Custom 7 STW ammo with 150 partitions. Only $40 a box of 20, which is cheaper than the brass when it's on sale. I ordered some of that, maybe it will shoot well, if not I can just pull the bullets and try a different recipe
If your gun doesn't group well with sciroccos it will like the noslers flat base. Thats been my experience.
Charles De Salme
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who had the Nosler ammo on sale ? Is it direct from Nosler
