NRA Troubles Continues

dmoon said:
Wow, you are technically correct mud, but also personally covered in mud....

Let's not forget that the documents that our most wonderful country are legally bound to follow were also most wonderfully designed to be modified............seems like one heck of a lot of people on this site like to totally ignore that fact......if any of them want to discuss that I'm right here....In my youth (I'm not young at all, almost 50), I won multiple national awards for my interpretation of the constitution.................bring it on......
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You are absolutely correct in that the USA Constitution can certainly be amended, as can any of the current amendments attached to it, by a 2/3 majority vote for such change, in both the US House of Representatives and the US Senate. Therefore, if any entity within the United States of America wishes to deny, atler or modify our Constitutional rights, let them convince 2/3 of our US Congress to do so and have 2/3 of the individual states ratify said amendment. Executive orders or bureaucratic interpretation of legal definitions that encroach on our Constitutional rights are illegal and the Supreme Court should do their sworn job and fight to fully protect our Constitution tooth and nail! Until such a time as our Constitution is legally changed by the US Congress, MudRunner2005 is absolutely correct!

Our Constitution was written to protect our rights as a nation, by protecting our rights as individuals, and trusting that the majority of individual citizens would protect our Constitution for all! Period! Our founding fathers intended for each individual citizen of the USA to have the right to own and lawfully use the arms equal to the best military arms in the world, so that the USA citizens could defend themselves against any and all threats, foreign or domestic, against its citizens majority's will, should peaceful solutions fail. The 1st and 2nd Amendments were written to reinforce the founding fathers profound intent regarding these specific rights!
 
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MudRunner2005 said:
Consider it brought...

No, they were not, unless a 2/3 convention of the states agrees on a ratification. Which will NEVER happen. Also, the Bill of Rights is not a living document, and was never meant to be. The reason they can never take those rights away from us, are because those rights are NOT given to us by the government. They are given to us by our Creator. They are only reaffirmed by the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution. It even says so in it.

Whoever you were competing against must have really sucked at reading comprehension.
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the last thing anyone wants is a bunch of blue states reinventing the USA through a convention. If those freaks had their way, you'd end up with La nueva Soviet Union 2.0, with a politburo of atheist transvestites headed by premier Michelle Obama and queen Barry.....

....or something. lol.

And yes, our Bill of Rights was the compromise that made the overly centralized Constitution palatable to the Anti-Federalists, so that ratification became possible. They are more than Amendments to anyone who is a (non communist) Constitutional scholar. They are rights guaranteed to withstand the whims and stupidity of a tyrannical majority. And the knowledge of the inevitable "tyranny of the majority" is what made our founding fathers choose a constitutional republic with a bicameral legislature (and electoral college, for that matter) over a democracy to begin with.
 
Riflehunter1776 said:
the last thing anyone wants is a bunch of blue states reinventing the USA through a convention. If those freaks had their way, you'd end up with La nueva Soviet Union 2.0, with a politburo of atheist transvestites headed by premier Michelle Obama and queen Barry.....

....or something. lol.

And yes, our Bill of Rights was the compromise that made the overly centralized Constitution palatable to the Anti-Federalists, so that ratification became possible. They are more than Amendments to anyone who is a (non communist) Constitutional scholar. They are rights guaranteed to withstand the whims and stupidity of a tyrannical majority. And the knowledge of the inevitable "tyranny of the majority" is what made our founding fathers choose a constitutional republic with a bicameral legislature (and electoral college, for that matter) over a democracy to begin with.
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Don't you wish it was legal to punch anyone who opens their mouth and says, "...But we live in a Democracy!" or "When Democracy works..." or mentions anything about America being a "democracy". Ummmm...We don't live in a Democracy *******!

We live in a Constitutional Republic... Thank God! :cool:

Then again, these are the same morons who protest Trump because he's "like literally hitler", but are too **** lazy to work to recognize the things he's fixing in our country that COULD be benefitting them. They'll stand there blindly supporting the Democrats (or anyone willing to offer a handout), too dense to realize that they're the ones who f*cked everything up in the first place decades ago...Starting WAY before that half-wit peanut farmer, and the coke-whore butt pirate married to Big Mike...
 
MudRunner2005 said:
Don't you wish it was legal to punch anyone who opens their mouth and says, "...But we live in a Democracy!" or "When Democracy works..." or mentions anything about America being a "democracy". Ummmm...We don't live in a Democracy *******!

We live in a Constitutional Republic... Thank God! :cool:

Then again, these are the same morons who protest Trump because he's "like literally hitler", but are too ---- lazy to work to recognize the things he's fixing in our country that COULD be benefitting them. They'll stand there blindly supporting the Democrats (or anyone willing to offer a handout), too dense to realize that they're the ones who f*cked everything up in the first place decades ago...Starting WAY before that half-wit peanut farmer, and the coke-whore butt pirate married to Big Mike...
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Don't blindly follow Trump either.
Economic wise he's doing okay but this trade war with China and others could change that fast. Not saying something shouldn't have been done, but the jury is still out on his tactic.

Now, the bad things Trump is doing and promising to do. Bump stocks ban, signing outrageous spending bills he said he wouldn't sign adding to the debt. And more gun laws and other anti Constitutional laws he said he supports including this TAPS Act and Redflag laws.

Trump said he would sign these bills if passed also.

"Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second.'" The Hill. Feb. 02 2018

Donald J. TrumpþVerified account @realDonaldTrump 22 Feb 2018

"I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!"

We already have Laws in place to adjudicate Mentally ill people from owning guns. But that's too hard. We need where Joe Blow can disarm you because you got angry.
 
MudRunner2005 said:
Don't you wish it was legal to punch anyone who opens their mouth and says, "...But we live in a Democracy!" or "When Democracy works..." or mentions anything about America being a "democracy". Ummmm...We don't live in a Democracy *******!

We live in a Constitutional Republic... Thank God! :cool:

Then again, these are the same morons who protest Trump because he's "like literally hitler", but are too ---- lazy to work to recognize the things he's fixing in our country that COULD be benefitting them. They'll stand there blindly supporting the Democrats (or anyone willing to offer a handout), too dense to realize that they're the ones who f*cked everything up in the first place decades ago...Starting WAY before that half-wit peanut farmer, and the coke-whore butt pirate married to Big Mike...
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to them, anyone who believes in nations is a "fascist" because in their retarded mindset, the only valid form of government is socialism. And if you are not an international socialist, you have to be a National socialist. Everything has to fall into one of those 2 categories.

So a patriot becomes a "fascist" because he/she does not agree with a one world socialist state (Idiots of the world, unite!) with no borders and no divisions among the uniformly homogenized, easily led sheeple. Believe in individual liberty and self determination? yep, they say that makes you a fascist. On the other hand, if you believe in strong arm Nazi tactics against political dissenters, it makes you gloriously "woke" and "not racist" so long as you support the one world state.

Trust me, these low-IQ imbeciles do not see anything on a deeper level. They dont have special understanding or insight that allows them to compare Constitutional patriots with Nazis. They are simple Neo Marx-Leninists who can handle a short slogan or two, and who only exist because the media (with the same goals and masters) carries their water.
 
WVRifleman said:
Don't blindly follow Trump either.
Economic wise he's doing okay but this trade war with China and others could change that fast. Not saying something shouldn't have been done, but the jury is still out on his tactic.

Now, the bad things Trump is doing and promising to do. Bump stocks ban, signing outrageous spending bills he said he wouldn't sign adding to the debt. And more gun laws and other anti Constitutional laws he said he supports including this TAPS Act and Redflag laws.

Trump said he would sign these bills if passed also.

"Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second.'" The Hill. Feb. 02 2018

Donald J. TrumpþVerified account @realDonaldTrump 22 Feb 2018

"I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!"

We already have Laws in place to adjudicate Mentally ill people from owning guns. But that's too hard. We need where Joe Blow can disarm you because you got angry.
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It's hard to trust anyone in power. If they were truly honest patriots in a vile, demented system, they never would have gotten that power.
 
WVRifleman said:
Don't blindly follow Trump either.
Economic wise he's doing okay but this trade war with China and others could change that fast. Not saying something shouldn't have been done, but the jury is still out on his tactic.

Now, the bad things Trump is doing and promising to do. Bump stocks ban, signing outrageous spending bills he said he wouldn't sign adding to the debt. And more gun laws and other anti Constitutional laws he said he supports including this TAPS Act and Redflag laws.

Trump said he would sign these bills if passed also.

"Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second.'" The Hill. Feb. 02 2018

Donald J. TrumpþVerified account @realDonaldTrump 22 Feb 2018

"I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!"

We already have Laws in place to adjudicate Mentally ill people from owning guns. But that's too hard. We need where Joe Blow can disarm you because you got angry.
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Oh don't worry, I don't blindly follow him. I know the anti-gun BS (bumpstock ban, etc...) and ERPO crap he's been doing and talking about doing. Trust me, not a fan. I don't blindly follow any man.
 
WVRifleman said:


Yes sir, they have a lot of house cleaning to do and it seems like they are very myopic about it. That will bring themselves down if they don't start seeing their ridiculousness
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Embezzling money, and helping strip us of our 2A rights? They got a LONG way to go to getting that train back on the track.

Not to say "I told you so" to all the people who called me unAmerican for not supporting their little ponzi scheme, but, naturally when proven right against all those nay-sayers, I can't help but enjoy a little bit of schadenfreude as Nero (LaPierre, Cox, & North) fiddles watching Rome (the NRA) burn from there karma coming back around to bite them, for how they've been misleading and giving false-hope they are manufacturing to line their own pockets, all-the-while ****ing on our rights by helping write anti-gun legislation and supporting anti-gun legislation.
 
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