Ok I am not a big fan of the 6.5 Creedmore

[Seymour]

Ok so here we are 12 pages into this and the OP hasn't showed back up. I've never been one to put down one shoting sport to promote another. I think we all need to voice our opinions for what we like or love which ever the case may be. But BLK started this thread to see who he could **** off, everyone is thinking it but I'm saying it. If you hate the creed then hate it if you love the creed then love it. I have lurked here for years and never post cuz I can learn more from reading but this site has become the running joke of gun sites cuz of the hate that's here it's really a shame that it's gone this way I blame no one here you are all admirable people but to bash the creed or to love the creed has become the running joke of

 

[Don A Parsons]

I think the same way,,, either a person is part of the Secret 6.5 Creedmoor Club,,, or your not. Ha

I'm in on it even though I don't own one,,, not unless I class my 308 Creed as one,,, which I do by the way.

The only magic behind each cartridge in my books is a package that is set-up to shoot consistant every time ,,, and will out perform the nut behind the trigger on every single outting.

It ain't worth getting flustered over any thread or what other people do or think ,,, not unless it offers some kind of value to ones self ... Deffinatly not for me since I do my own thing that is offered to me by the leading shooter I follow. LOL.

The fellow I follow has a wall of bling ,,, it didn't get there by mistake either.

Yuppers,,, find the lead as they are worth learning from ,,, nothing wrong with checking out many threads in hopes of finding or refreshing the long forgotten ideas of long ago.

Cheers from North of the 49th

 

[hubb]

I was addressing it to the OP since he's on the latest CM/6.5 Bash.

I find it's the people with little to no experience with the loudest and most frequent 6.5 bashing arguments.

I'm no fan of the CM for lots of reasons but it's more than adequate for probably 90% of north American game with the exclusion of big bears and Bison as long as one is reasonable i setting their max range and is capable of putting the bullet where it counts along with of course choosing an appropriate bullet for the application.

BINGO !

 

[FIGJAM]

For me that means using nothing less than a .300 mag on elk

This should get the 7mm guys going. 300 wm is overrated.

 

[FIGJAM]

The problem with the 6.5 Creedmoor is that it has been oversold and overhyped. It is a good cartridge — almost as good as a .260 Rem, with better factory ammunition availability. It's a GREAT cartridge for Eastern whitetail deer hunting where shots beyond 400 yards are a rarity, and the low recoil makes it easy to shoot.

On elk, especially "at range", it's marginal at best. Those selling it as an elk cartridge are asking for a lot of elk to die a slow death 3-days after being shot. A .340 Weatherby it is not! Elk are large tough animals. True, a perfect shot with a .22 to an elk's brain will drop the elk, but in the real world shots are rarely perfect. I argue in favor of using enough gun to quickly kill even if shots are not perfect. For me that means using nothing less than a .300 mag on elk, and nothing less than .338 on brown bear.

I don't own a 6.5 Creedmoor only because I own a .260 Rem. Even if I did it would not be my "do-all" gun — it would be a great gun for the niche it fills. That's how the 6.5 Creedmoor should be seen.

Also - talk about another topic beat to a pulp...your 300 wm doesn't compensate for **** poor marksmanship. You can tell yourself that, but the advantage is all psychological. I'll take a guy elk hunting that shoots a creed in tiny groups any day over some dude shooting a 300 or 338 mag that is scared of the gun, flinches, and makes a crappy shot. 6.5 creed is good on elk out to 500-600 yards.

 

[FIGJAM]

Maybe the creed hype isn't all bad - more dudes who were shooting 300 and 338 wms who never should have been are shooting the 6.5 creed that has no recoil and have turned into better marksman for it.

 

[TechHunter]

Ha! It seems to be the Democrat ideology. Conservative ideology says that if you don't like the 6.5 Creedmoor, then don't buy one.

Democratic ideology says if you don't like the 6.5 Creedmoor, then let's take it off the market so no one buys one!

 

[the hunter]

This should get the 7mm guys going. 300 wm is overrated.

U.S. Army Ranger wishing he could have had one in combat Shooting With One of the Deadliest Spec Ops Snipers - YouTube
And Mr. Rex said that past one mile that the .300wm shooters did the best, hardly over rated in my opinion.

 

[762x51]

i have an LR308 in 6.5CM. i love it, but i only hunt whitetails and the longest shot on my property would be just under 300 yards. it would have to be a mighty nice buck that i was sure wasnt coming any closer to take that shot as well. mainly i use it for plinking which suits me just fine. there's a few different choices for decent ammo from $15-$20 now. my go to hunting rifle is my 700 in .308 as it's suppressed and i dont have to worry about blowing out my ear drums.

 

[Silly_Ghillie]

I think the same way,,, either a person is part of the Secret 6.5 Creedmoor Club,,, or your not. Ha

I am in the "I was using the .260 before the creed" club.
I read a really good article about a year ago about how the .260 just came out at the wrong time period, allowing Hornady to slip the Creedmoor into the new and ever evolving long range market, in which everyone bought it up.
Yeah, The improved shoulder is nice, but I cannot see any reason to go with the 6.5CM when the .260 is essentially the same thing. It would be equivalent of me improving the 7mm-08 shoulder and calling it the .284-08 "perforator" or whatever and having almost identical ballistics.

I have met plenty of people that have to buy the best newest cartridge or setup. They don't even get their .223 barrels broke in and they want to swap to the .224 Valk. or the .300 PRC, or whatever new age "crafted from scientology and the powers of zenu" cartridge exists. Is it wrong of me to be critical of these folks?

 

[Remmy700]

You have the right to be critical of them just like they have the right to try new cartridges if that is what they want to do. I am kinda like that, I like trying new stuff. I like to make rifles shoot little groups and then I get rid of them. I like the reloading process, I like to run ladder tests and get super low SDs. However, I don't preach to people that any cartridge is best and greatest new thing either. At the end of the day you buy your own gear and make choices on what best suites you needs. Despite what caliber that is, if you are happy with it that is all that matters.

 

[laker]

Also - talk about another topic beat to a pulp...your 300 wm doesn't compensate for ---- poor marksmanship. You can tell yourself that, but the advantage is all psychological. I'll take a guy elk hunting that shoots a creed in tiny groups any day over some dude shooting a 300 or 338 mag that is scared of the gun, flinches, and makes a crappy shot. 6.5 creed is good on elk out to 500-600 yards.

I've personally never noticed elk to be hard to kill as long as the bullet is placed well

 

[rustyshackleford]

Also - talk about another topic beat to a pulp...your 300 wm doesn't compensate for ---- poor marksmanship. You can tell yourself that, but the advantage is all psychological. I'll take a guy elk hunting that shoots a creed in tiny groups any day over some dude shooting a 300 or 338 mag that is scared of the gun, flinches, and makes a crappy shot. 6.5 creed is good on elk out to 500-600 yards.

Not questioning it but what bullet and muzzle velocity are we talking about, for comparison sake, to get good performance at 600 yards on elk?

 

[FIGJAM]

Not questioning it but what bullet and muzzle velocity are we talking about, for comparison sake, to get good performance at 600 yards on elk?

This is what my strekok app shows with the 147gr eldm at 2695 fps.