It pains me to post this as I am a huge Zeiss fan with a lot of there products. I finally was able to talk myself into buying the Victory 10x45 lrf because of a great deal at europtics.com. I was like a kid on Christmas on my way to a hunting spot to try them out. My first impression was the clarity, they are truly excellent. The return was smokin fast at 1270 yards on a tree at the end of a fence row. Now the bad parts. I could barely read the LED display it appeared to me to be very dim most of the time and almost invisable a lot. I also got a lot of no reads on cornfields from 800 out. I tried to blame it on environmentals BUT, my buddy was standing next to me with his leica geovids 10x42 HD B 2200 not having any of the issues I was. LED was bright and no problem getting returns where the zeiss failed. Europtics was very cooperative when I took them back and asked them to exchange them for a new pair of the Leicas. Before I went through with it I took both outside the store and tried to range a fence, the Zeiss again gave me a no read the Leicas instantly returned a range of 1370. I took the Leicas home. Very disappointed. All this being said Zeiss does have a new version out but they are a little out of my range. Hope they address these issues.