Vortex Razor HD LH vs Razor LHT

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I have a bunch of both and don’t know which I prefer honestly. I run a dope chart taped to my stock so doesn’t really matter, just dial the value for the given range.

I’d think about buying what my shooting buds have so we could call misses for each other using reticles
 

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Could someone offer some advice? Looking to buy this scope and I don't know if I should get MOA or MIL. I'm a new shooter but am very good with numbers. A buddy said being good with numbers, I should get Mil. But I see mostly MOA talk on here so not sure. Thank you.

Both will get the job done. Flip a coin ...or do like Hunter5325 said, get what your buddy has so y’all are on the same system.
 

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Could someone offer some advice? Looking to buy this scope and I don't know if I should get MOA or MIL. I'm a new shooter but am very good with numbers. A buddy said being good with numbers, I should get Mil. But I see mostly MOA talk on here so not sure. Thank you.
I am swapping everything over to mils. Once you figure out your rifles wind/mph speed, it makes wind calls stupid easy. Every cartridge/bullet combo is a little different, but once you figure out how to calculate it with your ballistic program, super simple. My 300nmi is a 10mph gun. It takes a 10mph wind to push my bullet windage 0.6mil @ 600y, 0.8mil @ 800y, 0.4 mil @ 400y. If I know wind is say 4 mph you just take 40% of you known hold. Can either dial it or hold in reticle. I didn't like mils at all until I learned this quick reference formula last year. Now almost all my rifles wear mil scopes.
 

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High drum how do you determine what mph wind your gun is?
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Use a ballistics app, turn off spin drift. Find what wind speed from 9 o'clock causes your bullet to drift 0.6 mil @ 600y(do this my say use a 8mph first time for a 7mag w/ 180berg) once you find the wind speed required for that drift, that's your gun speed.

It should hold true out to 900y for higher bc bullets. So 900y will need 0.9mil adjustment, and say 300y will need 0.3. Once you get to 1000y you'll prob need to add a tenth, so 1.1mil for the 1000y shot.

Temp will have little affect on the formula, but density altitude will make noticeable differences. My rifle that's a 10mph gun at 6000', is an 8 or 9 at 2000'. It's a very handy formula.

Here's a ballistics chart of my norma imp w/245 Bergers at 2950fps. 10mph wind, see how the mil hold in tenths equals the 1st digit of yardage.

If I'm shooting in a 15mph wind, at 750y, I take my know constant of 0.7mil for 700y and take it x1.5, wind hold is now 1.1 mil. In a 4mph wind @ 750y, 0.7x 0.4 hold is now 0.3 mils.

This was my eye opening moment when I realized mils is truly more useful. It's not better per se, but more applicable when holding wind, and making easier hands on dope in the field. It's cost me a fair bit of money to swap all my scopes out, but if it makes me a more efficient rifleman, I'm all about it.
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Wasn’t so great. Mechanically it’s ok, but clarity is smoked by the Leupold. I’ll most likely be selling it.
One of the things I've noticed about Vortex optics, both scopes and binos, and I'll openly admit I'm not the biggest Vortex fan out there, they seem to have somewhat of a consistency problem and they can sometimes be hit or miss. Vortex has always been great to deal with and I have no complaints there, but I think they could definitely improve in the optical consistency department.
 

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One of the things I've noticed about Vortex optics, both scopes and binos, and I'll openly admit I'm not the biggest Vortex fan out there, they seem to have somewhat of a consistency problem and they can sometimes be hit or miss. Vortex has always been great to deal with and I have no complaints there, but I think they could definitely improve in the optical consistency department.
I expected more from the Razor line. Just not the glass quality I expected.To me IMO, It’s a meh scope.
 

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I'm pretty happy with mine, I think the glass is solid. I tested several higher end optics the other day. Very bright conditions looking into a shaded tree Grove about 800y away. The little razor showed detail in the pine tree back that several scopes costing 1.5-2x thr money, did not. This is the performance a guys needs for hunting. It performed better than my mk5hd 3.6-18, Athlon cronus btr, March 3-24x42. The only scopes that bested it were a minox zp5 and atacr 5-25x56. I may have gotten a great sample of the razor. I believe my mk5hd 3.6-18 is a poor sample as my 5-25 mk5hd is noticeably better.
 
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I was pretty impressed with the glass on mine. Right on par with if not better than my Zeiss v4 was
 
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