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Very easy for me to see why the Edge has more "power" than the 300RUM. If the pressure curve is similiar, the larger cross section of the bigger bullet will develope more power.

You don't need velocities or bullet weights to understand that. I just thought the example velocities were a little misleading.
 
AJ, I have never exceeded a book load to get 3250 FPS with the 200 grain AccuBond in my 300 RUM

Hogdon lists 95 grains of Retumbo with a 200 grain AccuBond bullet for 3048 FPS out of a 24" barrell and 62,400 PSI. That same load gave me 3250 FPS out of my 300 RUN with a Krieger 26" barrel.
 
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Its extremely difficult to compare these two chamberings when we are dealing with different calibers, different bullet weights, different burn rate powders, different Sectional density bullets and different baring surface bullets.

There are several differing opinions on why this happens. We have had many discussions about these theories, some heated at times.

Some feel that the surface area of the base of the bullet allows this extra velocity, some feel its the faster burn rate powders that allow it, some feel its a reduction in baring surface with the larger calibers that allow this to happen.

Personally, I would say honestly its a combination of all of these factors. But still, we are comparing apples to oranges here which makes any meaningful comparision impossible to do.

So how could we level the playing field for a better comparison.

In my opinion, you have to take bullets of like design and same or similiar sectional density. The 200 gr 30 cal bullets have a sectional density of 0.301. IF we look at 338 bullets. The closest one we have is the 250 gr bullet with a SD of 0.313.

If you put a 250 gr bullet in a 338 Edge, the velocity potential will be EXTEMELY similiar to what you see with a 300 RUM and a 200 gr bullet. In my experience, 3150 to 3200 fps is pretty comfortable in a 300 RUM with this bullet weight in a 26-27" class barrel.

In the edge, a 250 gr bullet can be loaded to 3050-3100 fps in same length barrels pretty easily. So with bullets of same or similiar SD, the velocity spreads are MUCH closer.

No matter the opinion, its a simple fact that if you take two bullets of same weight, say 200 gr in 30 cal and 338 cal, the larger diameter bullet will be able to achieve significantly more velocity with same case capacity chamberings every time.

Again, I am sure its a combo of all these things that make it happen but the simple fact is that it happens and happens every time.

Same reason why a 375 RUM will smoke a 338 Edge in velocity when both are loaded with 300 gr bullets!!! The Edge will get you 2850-2900 fps but the 375 RUM will get you very close to 3000 with same bullet weight and do so in a 26" barrel length.
 
Its not to hard to achieve 3200fps with a 200g slug out of a 300 RUM and a 26" bbl. 94g H-1000 gave me right at 3200 with 200g AB and SMK's. 95g Retumbo gave me 3225fps with 200g AB. Those were my accurate loads as well, so 3200fps w/200g slug and getting good accuracy is pretty decent IMO. 3000fps seems quite slow with 200g's....I had no trouble getting 3000fps with 220g SMK's w/H-1000...
 
Kirby,

That is the kind of explanation I was looking for. Keeping it simple for us knew guys.Thank you very much.
 
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